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Potentially Rare Colt AR-15 Rifles Found At A Gun Show
thefirearmblog.com ^ | 7/25/2016 | Patrick R

Posted on 07/25/2016 10:28:30 AM PDT by rktman

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To: waterhill

Regarding your shotgun, the phenomenon you refer to is called a “slam fire”, where you depress/hold the trigger and cycle the slide, whereupon the gun will fire when the slide is “slammed” forward.

I don’t recommend doing it, as if it ever fires before the breech locks it’d be bad.

To answer your question, it’s not an NFA issue. Indeed, any Ithaca Model 37 pump made before 1974 or so will slam fire. Again, I don’t recommend doing it.


21 posted on 07/25/2016 12:00:12 PM PDT by Panzerfaust
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To: waterhill

There is no restriction on pumps capable of slam firing. If there were, all the Cowboy action shooters would have to give up their Winchester 97’s. I’ve got a 1938 model 12, and it can do this, but it’s difficult to be accurate, and it really doesn’t save that much time.


22 posted on 07/25/2016 12:04:24 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rktman

Those rifles are worth exactly what somebody is willing to pay for them, like any other used gun. (”Used” as in having been owned by somebody else previously)


23 posted on 07/25/2016 12:23:56 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Pox
No one ever believes me when I tell them the Navy had select fire AR-15s. I reported aboard USS Los Angeles (SSN-688) in 1977, a year after she was commissioned, and the armory had select fire rifles with the receiver roll marked as Colt AR-15 Model 02 Cal 223. I believe they were Colt Model 602. Must be very rare.

Never saw them on any other boats. USS Omaha (SSN-692), commissioned two years after LA, had M16A1's without the brass deflector and marked CAL 5.56MM. I think they were Cold Model 604.

24 posted on 07/25/2016 1:59:38 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Swordmaker

***Unfortunately, most of the guns were literally junk***

I was at a police auction in Oklahoma many years ago. Very dull. Furniture, unclaimed items mostly, and a table full of seized guns. Then something like an electric charge went through the people and they surged toward the gun table! They were selling the guns!

Junk guns went for new prices! New seized guns also went for new prices! I could not believe it! The bidding was fast and furious! Something takes over people when guns are on the bidding block!
I was from out of state and could not bid, but all buyers had to fill out government paperwork.

In the county I live in the seized guns are torched.


25 posted on 07/25/2016 3:13:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Junk guns went for new prices! New seized guns also went for new prices! I could not believe it! The bidding was fast and furious! Something takes over people when guns are on the bidding block!

I once went to a general antique auction because they had a nice Winchester 1873 rifle going on the block. I wanted it because it had a set trigger and a 28" octagon barrel. I was the antique firearm appraiser for Simms Guns in Sacramento and qualified by the Courts in California to testify as an expert at the time and felt it was worth, at best at the time, around $375. A normal model 1873 Winchester in similar condition would have sold for around $250 at best.

Because I wanted if for my collection, I was willing to pay up to $325 for it, and figured no one would know that it was any more desirable than a regular '73 Winchester. How wrong I was.

When that lot came up the auctioneer picked up the rifle and said, "Our next lot is a gun, I don't know what it is, but it says Winchester on the barrel."

Suddenly around the room there were whispers among the audience of "Winchester, Winchester, Winchester. . . " and other assorted murmers. Some guy near me said "Isn't that the gun that Jimmy Steward won in that movie?" Another popped up with "The gun that won the west!"

The auctioneer, obviously not knowing how to handle a gun, put it to his shoulder, and aimed it at the audience. I cringed. He then said, "Can I have an opening bid of $500?"

There were paddles raised all over the place!

He kept raising the bid on that rifle until two women kept bidding each other up. . . and finished the bidding at $2250! With the buyer's premium required at that auction, that 1873 Winchester sold for SEVEN TIMES THE VALUE OF THAT GUN!

I knew then that when I sold my collection, I would sell my generic Winchesters a piece at a time at a similar auction. . . not at a gun auction. Ignorant buyers will pay through the nose for something they know nothing about merely because of the imprimatur of the name Winchester.

26 posted on 07/25/2016 3:36:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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