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To: Enchante

I would go easy on this.

There is a sizable group of Americans, who think our healthcare coverage is currently very screwed up, and needs to be fixed.

Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.

Just my opinion mind you. But I feed strongly, this subject could very easily be a strong one, for democrats, if we hand it to them.


7 posted on 07/21/2016 5:09:45 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Put down the crack pipe


8 posted on 07/21/2016 5:18:21 PM PDT by harwood (You don't wanna go there.)
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To: cba123

We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.


Yes, the mess could be eliminated by single payer. All that tacky, affordable care we had before Obama ‘fixed’ it was the worst in the world, except for all the others.


9 posted on 07/21/2016 5:20:17 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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We had the best healthcare system in the world. Until Hillary we had charity care and a saftey net. She crippled the system and Obama finished it off. We need to move the exact opposite direction from Obamacare, privatized and competition across state lines, healthcare savings accounts...all covered in Trump’s plan for healthcare reform.


11 posted on 07/21/2016 5:22:07 PM PDT by JayGalt
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Say what?!!!


14 posted on 07/21/2016 5:25:16 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: cba123
1. I would go easy on this.
2. There is a sizable group of Americans, who think our healthcare coverage is currently very screwed up, and needs to be fixed.
3. Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.
4. Just my opinion mind you. But I feed strongly, this subject could very easily be a strong one, for democrats, if we hand it to them.

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1. Excellent advice.

2. We can't have it all. It's socialized medicine, one's own plan or a mixture of both.
I know that for my 50 years of work, it was the BENNIES we all worked for. Health coverage during and after job end were ESSENTIAL. There are only a limited amount of choices. The rich can pay for the best because they are rich; the poor get the freebies from the government. We in the middle class have to be VERY astute when making the "health plan" decision.

3. I SUPPOSE Obama was trying to fix it though the socialized medicine plan is NOT the ideal in any way, shape or form. It's more of the Democrat "nanny state" plan, that is, to make Americans 100% dependent on the federal government...the gubmin nipple.

4. 100% correct and it is SCARY!

16 posted on 07/21/2016 5:26:44 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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What we had before wasn’t perfect but a heck of a lot better than where we are now. Instead of screwing with insurance why don’t they go after lawyers for all the stupid lawsuits and judges for allowing stupid lawsuits? I’m not saying that there aren’t bad doctors out there but what’s happened hasn’t stopped it. If someone wanted insurance they could get it for the most part. They just didn’t want to pay for it. The only good thing I see was preexisting conditions. That’s it.


17 posted on 07/21/2016 5:27:47 PM PDT by southernindymom
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“Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.

Hit the road troll


18 posted on 07/21/2016 5:29:14 PM PDT by DAC21
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Welcome to FR.

Imho, one should lurk a long while before posting.

5.56mm


19 posted on 07/21/2016 5:29:35 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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Obama was trying to fix it.

And you are a blooming fool................

20 posted on 07/21/2016 5:29:40 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FUBAR / SNAFU)
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Thing is, what we had before was screwed up because of *prior* attempts by Democrats to ‘fix it’!


22 posted on 07/21/2016 5:31:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.

Obama was NOT trying to fix anything. Where did you ever get that idea? What we had was fine and certainly better than the chaos we have now.

23 posted on 07/21/2016 5:35:49 PM PDT by plain talk
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Ronald Reagan knew exactly what Barack Obama and the Democrats were trying to do.

Ronald Reagan on Universal Healthcare


26 posted on 07/21/2016 5:39:44 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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Hi Obama I didnt know you read FR.


28 posted on 07/21/2016 5:48:21 PM PDT by JayAr36 (GOPe is really worried they will lose their gravy train)
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Take it from a guy who worked internationally in endoscopic surgical and laser training in the early-mid 90’s.

The NHS OR’s in the UK had all the trappings of a cheap motel room. The Doc’s I worked with only went there because it was compulsory for them to continue their private clinic work and keep their license to practice. They had to do a specified amount of NHS work.

The private clinics were however impeccably clean, modern and well equipped. I had several accounts in Manhattan at prestigious hospitals and they were on par with what I saw there in the private sector.

To be fair, I was doing a training class in Trinidad in 1991 shortly after a coup attempt and despite the fact that bugs were crawling on the walls during my time in the hospital, I had the privilege of working with one of the most talented surgeons I have ever met. So maybe it’s a give and take thing.

I’m glad if what is going on now is working out for you and wish you all the best. Just remember that sooner or later what is happening now will be no different than what’s going on in our nations VA hospitals. And there will always be a very efficient private sector of healthcare to take care,of those who can afford it.


30 posted on 07/21/2016 5:50:21 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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Actually what we had before was pretty good.

There were some things that could have tweaked such as removing all the idiocy that Ted Kennedy shoved in the system but mess? No.

Obummers horrible pile of garbage that he forced on us, THAT is a mess.

This subject is actually a strong one for American Patriots. People are being forced to buy a product by an illegal tax.

32 posted on 07/21/2016 6:00:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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“There is a sizable group of Americans, who think our healthcare coverage is currently very screwed up, and needs to be fixed.

Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.”

Triple premiums, quadruple deductibles, and recently dumped from my insurer.

What universe are you living on?!


34 posted on 07/21/2016 6:02:47 PM PDT by maggief
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In 85 I had insurance that paid 100% Emergency Medical. 80% for normal medical at any doctors I could choose. I also had 1 dollar prescriptions. The cost to me through my Employer was $1.66 per week. Suddenly the Government declares there is a big problem and we get HMO’s. From there it was all down hill at break neck speed. Rising premiums and major restrictions.

As soon as the government gets involved every thing goes to crap.


39 posted on 07/21/2016 6:29:56 PM PDT by Revel
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I hereby nominate your post for the stupid nonsense of the decade award.


40 posted on 07/21/2016 6:34:53 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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If it’s so great, why are the politicians exempt from using it??


42 posted on 07/21/2016 6:44:15 PM PDT by libsrscum (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Healthcare (rather lack thereof) has never been this screwed up and it is getting worse. Ask anyone in the healthcare industry.


47 posted on 07/21/2016 7:43:06 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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