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Trump: U.S. wouldn’t necessarily defend NATO countries attacked by Russia
washingtontimes.com ^ | July 20, 2016 | Victor Morton

Posted on 07/20/2016 9:52:20 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said Wednesday that the U.S. wouldn’t necessarily defend other NATO countries if they were attacked by Russia.

In an interview with the New York Times, Mr. Trump essentially said the U.S. would not abide by the military alliance, one provision of which declares an attack on one to be an attack on all.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: nato; peaceinourtime; trumpforeignpolicy
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To: Lent; MinuteGal

Anyone who can’t figure out that Trump is talking about Turkey, is a dodo bird. Trump is subtly warning that if he wins the Presidency, Turkey had better shape up, pronto.


21 posted on 07/20/2016 10:46:27 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS !!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Interesting. In another thread, the subject is Israeli rabbis discussing the imminent coming of the Messiah.

One of those rabbis has been quoted as saying:

“When you hear that the Russians have captured the city of Crimea, you should know that the times of the Messiah have started, that his steps are being heard.

And when you hear that the Russians have reached the city of Constantinople [today’s Istanbul], you should put on your Shabbat clothes and don’t take them off, because it means that the Messiah is about to come any minute.”


22 posted on 07/20/2016 10:54:43 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Uh, Communism had something to do with it. But for Russian Communism’s compulsion to expand, we would have been allies for most of the 20th Century.


23 posted on 07/20/2016 11:05:44 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Glad2bnuts; Berlin_Freeper
The US and Russia are natural allies.

The US and Russia will never be natural allies because they come from totally different backgrounds going back hundreds of years. One is based on the Western tradition of constitutional government and the rule of law, freedom of speech and increasing human rights. Russia has a history of repressive government, political prisoners, secret police, dictatorship, lack of the rule of law in many areas, suppression of free speech, propaganda, invasion and conquest of free countries, and is currently a mafia-controlled kleptocracy.

We do have a few mutual interests such as the control of Islamic radicalism. But in the grand scheme of things they are not our friends.

24 posted on 07/20/2016 11:11:59 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: SoCal Pubbie

That’s the point. Better Russia a friend than enemy. If Trump and Putin can make it happen it’s better for all. Better to make a good attempt and tell the Russians what Putin already knows, the eventual alternative would most certainly be in no ones best interest.


25 posted on 07/20/2016 11:12:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

...and Greece only makes the percentage cut courtesy of their massive $12 GDP.


26 posted on 07/20/2016 11:12:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Glad2bnuts

OK, obviously you have never been behind the Iron Curtain when it was up. Consider yourself inexperienced. You maybe book learned but life behind the Iron Curtain was miserable. Anyone who believes otherwise is a damn fool.


27 posted on 07/20/2016 11:16:12 PM PDT by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t know that Russia could ever be a friend to the US. Relations could be far less strained to the point that working together on common interests would be possible. It would be a mistake to believe that Russia would not work against US interest when in conflict with their own, though.


28 posted on 07/20/2016 11:16:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Putin knows as well as those in D.C., it's a whole new ball game with Trump. A whole new world. Someone with real smarts and big league hands on experience. Not the usual college preppy law clerk turned do nothing career politician. If they can make it happen, I'm all for it. They'll get their chance.☺
29 posted on 07/20/2016 11:21:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: flaglady47

“Anyone who can’t figure out that Trump is talking about Turkey, is a dodo bird.”

Perhaps he’s talking about most of the Baltics, Germany, and pretty much the rest of NATO.


30 posted on 07/20/2016 11:32:35 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Trump20162020

France isn’t even a NATO member, is it?


31 posted on 07/20/2016 11:33:53 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Judging from the gleeful comments of the political class supported with big government civilian program spending and its love for commie/fascist nations and governments, members of the now robbed and deposed private sector should be building fallout shelters.


32 posted on 07/20/2016 11:49:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Glad2bnuts
You do understand, I suppose, that you have precisely repeated the Stalinist line about the causes of the Cold War?


33 posted on 07/20/2016 11:53:59 PM PDT by nathanbedford (wearing a zot as a battlefield promotion in the war for truth)
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To: nathanbedford

Who benefitted from the Cold War?


34 posted on 07/21/2016 12:01:37 AM PDT by proust (Cruz forgot to say "Allah Ackbar" before blowing himself up)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

FYI — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIQVTthsM2Q

Nigel Farage interview on InfoWars — 7min wed 7/20

he is in Cleveland, going to convention and Thursday nite he is

going to be fascinated to hear what Trump says, and how he says it


35 posted on 07/21/2016 12:04:04 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: proust
Answer your own rhetorical questions.

My answer is: hundreds of millions of people who lived under Soviet slavery who were ultimately freed.


36 posted on 07/21/2016 12:35:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford (wearing a zot as a battlefield promotion in the war for truth)
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To: Glad2bnuts

LOL—never mind the Gulag and the Berlin Wall.


37 posted on 07/21/2016 3:13:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Glad2bnuts

Now thats just pathologically ignorant at best. Might want to educate yourself on the actions of the Soviet Union and its goals. Even today Snowden spending the rest of his life in Russia could be considered poetic justice.


38 posted on 07/21/2016 3:29:40 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“Mr. Trump said that if Russia attacked them, he would decide whether to come to their aid only after reviewing whether those nations ‘have fulfilled their obligations to us,’” the Times wrote.

"...have fulfilled their treaty obligations to us..." What exactly does that mean?

39 posted on 07/21/2016 3:39:19 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: flaglady47
Anyone who can’t figure out that Trump is talking about Turkey, is a dodo bird. Trump is subtly warning that if he wins the Presidency, Turkey had better shape up, pronto.

Then Trump wasn't listening to the question because he was specifically asked about Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania and not Turkey. Those are the countries he is apparently willing let dangle in the breeze.

And it's interesting to note that in his acceptance speech Mike Pence said that the U.S. would stand by its allies and criticized Clinton/Obama for abandoning its friends. I guess the Baltic States aren't your friends.

40 posted on 07/21/2016 3:47:41 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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