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The laid-off journalist that was first to call Melania Trump's speech (TR)
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 07/20/16 | Sara DiNatale

Posted on 07/20/2016 8:42:43 AM PDT by shortstop

Jarrett Hill was sitting in a Los Angeles Starbucks scrolling through Twitter and answering Facebook messages while listening to Melania Trump's speech at the Republican National Convention on Monday night.

Something made him stop. It was the phrase "strength of your dreams."

"It kind of made me pause for a minute," Hill told The New York Times. "I remembered that line from Michelle Obama's speech."

Not bad for a guy chilling at a coffee shop.

Except, Hill is actually a trained journalist who not long ago was laid off from a broadcast job. According to his LinkedIn profile, his last on-air job was with Tampa station WFTS, on The Now Tampa Bay for nine months between 2014-15.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; convention; jarretthill; melaniaspeech; melaniaspeechwriter; meredithmciver; plagiarism; trump
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To: ken in texas

Oh, journalists are very well trained. They do exactly what they’re told to do.


21 posted on 07/20/2016 9:35:10 AM PDT by real saxophonist ( YouTube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: trebb

Trumps son admitted there is an issue...listen to his Interview before you claim no one used Michelles speech


22 posted on 07/20/2016 9:35:16 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: shortstop

Looks just stupid enough to be a journalist.


23 posted on 07/20/2016 9:36:49 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Timpanagos1
Now, even the regular media has picked up on the alleged possibly that Melania has been accused of plagerizing some speech by Michelle Obama.

Back in 2008, Michelle Obama was accused of plagerizing lines of her DNC speech from Saul Alinsky's writings. So Michelle did not give an original speech back then. And Michelle never practiced what she preached, talking about the measure of someone giving respect when she doesn't respect our nation or other Americans.

24 posted on 07/20/2016 9:37:10 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: trebb

All the Trumps so far have presented themselves extremely well...the MSM must be hating this. Melania was charming - apparently one reporter’s brother tweeted the reporter during her speech and said “that’s it..I’m voting for Trump”. I saw another guy say “If he can get a woman like that I’m voting for him”. Don Jr is fabulous and even Tiffany did well - way better than I’d have done.

One the other side we have traitorous crooked lying Hillary, very homely Chelsea who runs the family slush fund, and the scum pervert who looks like he’s got more than one foot in the grave.

I’d hate to be running against the Trumps!


25 posted on 07/20/2016 9:37:40 AM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: shortstop

My third grade teacher, Mrs. Lyons told us about how “The strength of our dreams” would carry us through life. That was in 1958. I’ll bet if you dig around in quote books and sites you’ll find that phrase and simular phrases go back hundreds of years.


26 posted on 07/20/2016 9:39:03 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: PghBaldy

“The Audacity of Hope” - Barrack Obama

“The Man From Hope” - Bill Clinton

Uh oh!


27 posted on 07/20/2016 9:40:06 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican ("IF" our votes count....)
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To: shortstop

When a journalist writes a story it’s always about them. With a reporter it’s about the facts.


28 posted on 07/20/2016 9:40:58 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: shortstop

I aint buying it. This was all a set up. Some speech writer in the Trump campaign did this on purpose and tipped off the media that it was coming. There is no way you’ll ever convince me that some journalist remembered those cliche’s from Michelle Obama’s speech 8 years ago.


29 posted on 07/20/2016 9:44:07 AM PDT by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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To: RummyChick
Trumps son admitted there is an issue...listen to his Interview before you claim no one used Michelles speech

I didn't see/hear the interview - it just strikes me that when some phrases that helve been used by many many folks over the decades, it's a huge jump to call i plagiarism because they show up in similar speeches some years apart. Michelle didn't coin the phrases and any rational person would know they are up for grabs by anyone who has a relevant place to use them.

30 posted on 07/20/2016 9:44:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
There is no plagiarism. There was no loss by the original speech writer or Michele Obama. Although plagiarism is not a criminal or civil offense, plagiarism is illegal if it infringes an author's intellectual property rights, including copyright or trademark. And there is no legal plagiarism. For example, the owner of a copyright can sue a plagiarizer in federal court for copyright violation. The plagiarist in turn may have to pay the copyright owner of the plagiarized works the amount he or she actually lost because of the infringement, in addition to paying attorney's fees. Michele lost nothing as she is married to a lame duck. And there has been no evidence that anyone copyrighted anything. And the topper is, there has been no one stepping forward to indicate a lawsuit. There isn't anything. this is just another BS attempt to smear someone's integrity connected to the GOP candidate. Next they'll go after the Trump pet saying it hadn't received it's shots. Teach a man to fish, and he'll feed himself. Teach a news wrriter to write, and he'll lie to you. red
31 posted on 07/20/2016 9:45:47 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: fella

There hasn’t been a single person on FR that refuses to acknowledge what really happened that has been able to provide me with ANY OTHER instance of these words that Michelle and Melania used

“values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond. And you do what you say”

try to find it. You guys keep claiming these are common phrases. So find someone else who used that exact order of words.

Don’t show me a quote that says your word is your bond. So what. Find the EXACT quote.

Jr admitted it was an issue and blamed the speechwriters.


32 posted on 07/20/2016 9:46:56 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: trebb

So give me a link with this order of words- other than Melania and Michelle. Internet has 100s of millions of docs to search.

“values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond. And you do what you say”


33 posted on 07/20/2016 9:48:40 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: shortstop

Dennis Praeger just read a statement by Melania Trump’s speechwriter. Melania gave the writer some examples of people she admired and that included Michelle Obama. She cribbed notes but never checked the exact content of the earlier speech. The woman offered to resign but Trump did not accept it.

This whole story is a big NOTHING.


34 posted on 07/20/2016 9:49:45 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Chauncey Gardiner
< Most red-blooded males don’t care what Melania said in her speech. Too easy on the eyes.

He does have a good eye...lol

35 posted on 07/20/2016 9:51:23 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SoCal Pubbie

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/755807056821649408?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


36 posted on 07/20/2016 9:51:35 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Well at least people on FR can quite claiming that the speechwriter didn’t use Michelle’s speech.

Glad I was right about that! I knew I was.

So lazy speechwriter work, I guess ,and not treachery against Donald.


37 posted on 07/20/2016 9:52:28 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SoCal Pubbie

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-republican-convention-2016-live-melania-trump-s-speechwriter-releases-1469032466-htmlstory.html


38 posted on 07/20/2016 9:53:33 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: RummyChick

Read the LA Times article. It has the speechwriter’s statement. The woman did not check the original speech directly and probably didn’t know what speech the phrases came from.

If anything it was a homage to Michelle Obama. Quentin Tarantino is called a genius for theft far worse than this.


39 posted on 07/20/2016 9:56:55 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: RummyChick
I grew up with those phrase and hear them countless time over my 63 years - if you're interested in finding the phrases or permutations of them, have at it.

Another interesting factoid is that having some of the same words/phrases that occur naturally in everyday life does not constitute plagiarism - if it was in a published document with appropriate protections, and exactly word for word, then it is plagiarism.From url: https://peripheralsperspective.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/a-mans-word-is-his-bond-or-is-it/ A phrase attributed to Miguel de Cervantes is: “An honest man’s word is as good as his bond.” This was a standard in the early days of our nation. It continues as an innate readiness for many today. Somewhere along the way, Situational Ethics was introduced and accepted as a reasonable lifestyle, and the Philosophy that the end justifies the means was embraced. This is a very old phrase dating back and attributed to “The Greek playwright Sophocles who wrote in Electra (c 409 B.C.), ‘The end excuses any evil,’ a thought later rendered by the Roman poet Ovid as ‘The result justifies the deed’ in ‘Heroides’ (c. 10 B.C.).” [From “Wise Words and Wives’ Tales: The Origins, Meanings and Time-Honored Wisdom of Proverbs and Folk Sayings Olde and New” by Stuart Flexner and Doris Flexner, Avon Books, New York, 1993].

From a Moody Blues song (and other sources if one wants to look:

Say what you mean, mean what you say There's a "Strength of your Dreams" book out from 1998.

Moot point since a speech writer just accepted blame for the quotes and offered to resign - Trump said "No" to the resignation offer.

Many trying to make so much hash out of a teaspoon of hamburger and a quarter onion that it's insane.

40 posted on 07/20/2016 10:03:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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