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'It's Working:' New Analysis Shows Insurers Losing Tens of Millions Annually on Obamacare
Townhall.com ^ | July 19, 2016 | Guy Benson

Posted on 07/19/2016 11:10:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

It's not just United HealthBlue Cross/Blue Shield and boutique commercial insurers initially praised by the president as a model for his massive healthcare experiment. The trend of health insurance providers losing money on Obamacare's disproportionately older and sicker (and therefore more expensive to cover) enrollees is a nationwide problem that's driving companies out of the individual market and forcing rates upward. Fewer choices, higher costs, and disappointing enrollment statistics. Via John Sexton, here's a Politico report on the 'Affordable' Care Act's unstable, unsustainable status quo:

For the insurance companies doing business in the state–the ones issuing policies to those 600,000 people–Obamacare has turned into a financial sinkhole. UnitedHealth Group, the nation’s largest insurance company, is pulling out of the Obamacare business in North Carolina next year. Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina, which dominated the individual market with more than a half-million customers, reported that losses on its Obamacare business in 2014 and 2015 topped $400 million. The insurer said that figure includes government payments designed to shield insurers from big losses during the early years of Obamacare. The only other current competitor, Aetna, wants to hike rates by nearly 25 percent next year...

What's happening in North Carolina is repeating itself in state after state across the country and represents the most acute structural threat to the marquee achievement of President Barack Obama's presidency. A POLITICO review of 2015 financial filings from nearly 100 health plans across a dozen geographically and politically diverse states found that less than a quarter of them hit the standard break-even point for insurers, at which payouts are kept to about 85 percent of premiums taken in. And 40 percent of them had medical costs that outright exceeded the premiums they brought in. Those numbers do not include government payments that compensate plans for particularly high-cost customers. Even so, many of those insurers lost tens of millions of dollars on their Obamacare policies last year — and now they're seeking big rate hikes.

Hillary Clinton, who basically invented Obamacare, looks at all of this and thinks, "it's working."  Her campaign just started attacking Mike Pence for wanting to repeal the law -- which is actually a pretty popular position, so I hope they keep it up. And as Obamacare's co-ops keep dropping like flies (undercutting one of the "solutions" she mentioned in this revealing exchange), she's also re-embracing the so-called public option. As is the White House. The public option was defeated in 2009 and 2010 because even the Pelosi/Reid Democratic majorities couldn't muster the votes to sustain a provision that would have created a government option on the exchanges -- which critics correctly noted would undercut and subsume the private market, resulting in many more Americans being dumped into the government-funded and -operated "option."  Democrats' infamously-shattered "like your plan" pledge, aimed at the large majority of Americans who were satisfied with their existing arrangements, would have disintegrated for even more consumers, a lot sooner. And now they're pushing for it again.  People who don't want to keep their plan or doctor, who would like to see a hastened demise of the private market, and who would prefer something closer to the VA's scandal-plagued and bureaucrat-run system should vote for the Democrats.  Otherwise, there's an alternative, which we discussed last month.  Here's conservative healthcare wonk Jim Capretta giving an overall thumbs-up to that House GOP's Obamacare replacement plan:

The plan is practical. It recognizes that more than 150 million Americans are enrolled in job-based health-insurance plans today, and, for the most part, they like what they have. These workers and their families are not that interested in proposals to upend employer-sponsored plans based on the promise of something better on the other end. To their credit, the authors of the House GOP plan recognized this reality. The only change for employer-sponsored coverage in the House plan is an upper limit on the tax preference for such coverage, set at a level that would bring cost discipline to the most expensive job-based offerings (the plan did not specify the level of the upper limit but made clear that it would affect a relatively small percentage of plans). This upper limit would replace the despised “Cadillac tax” of the ACA, which imposes a 40 percent excise tax on all plans above a certain threshold...

For individual and families who do not have access to employer coverage, the House GOP plan would provide a refundable tax credit that could be used to offset the premium of a health-insurance plan. The tax credit would be available to anyone who wasn’t offered an employer plan, regardless of their income, so it would provide much more help to the middle class than the ACA’s premium credits, which are gradually reduced as household income rises and eliminated altogether for families with incomes above four times the federal poverty line. The tax credits in the House proposal are a very important part of the overall plan. With this proposal, the House GOP can rightfully say that it has offered a plan that would ensure that all Americans have access to affordable health insurance. There would be no reason for anyone in the United States to go without health insurance if they want it.

And here's Capretta explaining how the detailed, sweeping Republican post-Obamacare proposal would resolve the 'pre-existing conditions' problem, which was one of the more politically and morally potent arguments in favor of changing the pre-Obamacare system:

The plan also addresses the question of consumers with expensive pre-existing conditions. Insurers would be barred from charging higher-than-normal premiums to, or restricting coverage for, customers who have stayed continuously insured. This means that people who have a chronic condition, or have previously battled an expensive disease like cancer, can move freely from employer coverage to the individual market, and vice versa, without penalty so long as they have continued to stay covered. Unlike the ACA, which may be encouraging some young and healthy people to go uninsured (since they can wait until they get sick to buy coverage, knowing that insurers will be legally required to insure them), the House plan provides strong incentives for everyone to stay insured and thus remain under the umbrella of the plan’s “continuous coverage protection” approach.

Read the whole column, as well as Capretta's piece refuting the president's recent contribution to the Journal of the American Medical Association defending his failing and unpopular law. Fittingly, Obama originally issued some of his most egregious false promises in support of the Obamacare legislation at...the American Medical Association. Which reminds me that it's always a good time to re-up this video:

Obamacare Promises: Then vs. Now


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KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 2016election; aca; healthcare; hillaryrottenclinton; miserablefailure; obamacare
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1 posted on 07/19/2016 11:10:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare was designed to put private insurers out of business so that the government is the only place left to go for insurance.


2 posted on 07/19/2016 11:20:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Kaslin
Hillary Clinton, who basically invented Obamacare

Don't tell Mitt.

3 posted on 07/19/2016 11:24:41 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Bingo. It’s working just as designed.


4 posted on 07/19/2016 11:29:20 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Obamacare was designed to put private insurers out of business so that the government is the only place left to go for insurance.

Since that was the design. It IS working!

The other "elephant in the room" is that the Federal government now firmly controls health care instead of the individual states. Thus, the "conservative" alternative to Obamacare is yet another Federally administered program.

Pelosi complained on the run-up to Obamacare passage that 16% of the economy was not under the direct control of Congress. So, even if Obamacare is repealed, she wins and we lose!

5 posted on 07/19/2016 11:33:28 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Kaslin
REAL health care reform should have been allowing insurance companies to sell their insurance plans across state lines on a regional basis. That right there would strongly encourage real competition for such plans, and as such would mean actual lower cost to consumers buying these plans.
6 posted on 07/19/2016 11:34:52 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Kaslin

The big insurance companies endorsed it, which helped make it possible. So too bad for them.


7 posted on 07/19/2016 11:35:27 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Kaslin
And who pays for these losses? You got it- those of us who buy insurance and pay taxes.
8 posted on 07/19/2016 11:37:43 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Kaslin

Um...yeah.

People like me told you insurance companies this was going to happen.

And you companies responded by laughing, sneering, flipping us off and calling us racists.

So all I can say now is: go to Hell.

Remember: complaining about this is racist. :)


9 posted on 07/19/2016 11:42:12 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Tzimisce

The insurance companies are cool with this. It’s a leveraged buyout. Massive mergers are currently taking place in the health insurance industry. Once we get down to about six companies some massive Golden Parachutes will be handed out, and Uncle Sam will walk in and take over.


10 posted on 07/19/2016 11:47:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RayChuang88

STATE LINES

A New Yorker paying $500/month for coverage may wish to pay $400/month for coverage that a man his age in Pittsburgh is getting.

If the Pennsylvania insurer is only making 3% and lots of New Yorkers start buying $400/month coverage and making an average of $485/month in claims the Pennsylvania insurer will go broke.

What might work for one New Yorker doesn’t necessary work for hundreds of thousands of them.

The simple fact are New York coverage costs more because New York health care workers are paid more than most others.


11 posted on 07/19/2016 11:49:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin

I don’t need a study to tell you this.. there are 2 bigger health insurers in my town, I have worked for both, they have collectively earmarked about 400 MILLION between them for losses due to Obamacare this year.


12 posted on 07/19/2016 11:50:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RayChuang88

“insurance plans across state lines”

Private companies need to be free by federal law to create plans with true value. Providers and drug makers need to fight it out pricewise for a place at an insurer’s money table.

Drug and care coverage should be split, with:
1. drug coverage being sold nationally across state lines solely under federal law
2. care coverage being sold on:
a. a state/regional(metropolitan statistical area, state rural area) basis [think BC/BS of State/Region]
b. and a hospital chain/network basis [think Kaiser].

It should be kept in mind that drugs are often covered by federal patents, which have nationwide effect, so drug purchase and drug coverage should have nationwide scope.

Providers such as doctors and hospitals are licensed by states, so insurance coverage for those them is most easily done on a state or regional level.

There has to be some means of dealing with interstate cases, say a man from Denver getting a heart attack while visiting New York City.

Swiss insurers love to sell travel coverage, which is very profitable.


13 posted on 07/19/2016 11:53:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin
The insurance company gladly jumped on board because they thought they would get rich. They ended up getting screwed, like the rest of America. While I believe that private insurance is best for America, I can't help but laugh at looking at these insurers getting screwed.

Lesson to be learned - never bargain with the devil.

I hope the Trump administration puts an end to the idea of a single payer system.

14 posted on 07/19/2016 11:53:27 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Is that the same insurers who kept lobbying for Obamacare thinking they could screw the American people with Obama?


15 posted on 07/19/2016 11:53:30 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: pepsi_junkie

My thoughts too. The Chamber of commerce are the biggest dumb a$$es. They promote illegals in California and now complain California wants to extort them global warming moneys.

When will these stupid new age capitalists ever learn. They do not look further than the width of a dollar bill


16 posted on 07/19/2016 11:55:09 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Brian Griffin

Don’t try to explain fact to the “market uber alles” folks

Health care costs vary widely from state to state, not only because of labor costs, but because of regulatory, licensing, and all sorts of other differences.

If you allowed a PA insurer to write policies in NY, the cost of such a policy would be higher than a policy for a PA resident, it would have to be or the pool would go broke.


17 posted on 07/19/2016 11:55:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Cowboy Bob

Lesson in crony capitalism with communists. What were these idiots thinking? Dont they understand that communism is not just the Soviet threat?


18 posted on 07/19/2016 11:56:17 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

For power and control over their subjects.


19 posted on 07/19/2016 11:57:46 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Cowboy Bob

The people at the private insurance companies who COUNT....a small number of senior executives who make the decisions...ARE going to get very, very rich.

They get millions of new customers signing up at gunpoint, and ultimately a big Golden Parachute package from Uncle Sam when they finally decide to take over.


20 posted on 07/19/2016 12:10:16 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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