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Cleveland police union asks for suspension of 'open carry' in wake of Baton Rouge, ahead of RNC
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Posted on 07/17/2016 12:13:13 PM PDT by quesney

The head of Cleveland's largest police union is calling on Ohio Gov. John Kasich to temporarily restrict the state's open carry gun laws during this week's Republican National Convention following Sunday's shooting in Louisiana that killed three officers and wounded at least three others.

"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something -- I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN. "They can fight about it after the RNC or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over."

State law in Ohio allows for licensed firearm owners to wear their weapons in public. With the exception of a small "secure zone" inside and around the Quicken Loans Arena, residents, delegates and protesters are legally permitted to walk around the city -- including within its 1.7 square mile regulated "event zone" -- any firearm not explicitly banned by the state.

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TOPICS: US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; cleveland; opencarry; secondamendment; suspension
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To: quesney
>>They can fight about it after the RNC or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over.”<<

No matter if it's unconstitutional...just do it anyway.

81 posted on 07/17/2016 3:01:52 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MagUSNRET
"'I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point,' Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association, told CNN”

Then Loomis should be immediately removed from his job. He took an oath to defend, most likely, both the U.S. and the Ohio State Constitutions.

82 posted on 07/17/2016 3:05:43 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: SteveinSATX
if he doesn’t care about the constitution then why not just suspend the protestors right to assemble by revoking their permits

The right to peaceful assembly is a Constitutionally guaranteed right. The right to "Open Carry" is a state's right...............

83 posted on 07/17/2016 3:11:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: quesney

When they want to deprive you of the right to bear arms, you know why the founders recognized that right in the first place.


84 posted on 07/17/2016 3:34:21 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Mohammed was a war mongering pedophile rapist who started a Satanic death cult. Arrest me, Lynch.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

don’t they still have to apply for a permit or something?


85 posted on 07/17/2016 3:42:03 PM PDT by SteveinSATX (Anti-liberalism 24/7)
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To: Hot Tabasco

don’t they still have to apply for a permit or something?


86 posted on 07/17/2016 3:42:10 PM PDT by SteveinSATX (Anti-liberalism 24/7)
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To: MagUSNRET

Several members of family in law enforcement, and have heard for some time that they already agree with this position.


87 posted on 07/17/2016 4:00:24 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SteveinSATX
don’t they still have to apply for a permit or something?

Who are you referring to? The protestors who want to protest? Or the people who want to openly carry? And if you're talking about openly carrying, are you referring to those who choose rifles or those who choose handguns?

It's a nebulous question that involves a lot of laws in order to answer your question........

88 posted on 07/17/2016 4:10:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: Navy Patriot

Excellent idea, and send his family along with him.


89 posted on 07/17/2016 4:21:52 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

the protestors


90 posted on 07/17/2016 4:37:53 PM PDT by SteveinSATX (Anti-liberalism 24/7)
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To: quesney

At close distance to the convention, perhaps within a couple blocks, are police going to check that felons do not possess guns. I would imagine that many Black Panthers are not allowed to own weapons.


91 posted on 07/17/2016 4:42:09 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: SteveinSATX
the protestors

The protestors need permits to protest and their area of protestation is defined.........

Where you going with this?????

92 posted on 07/17/2016 4:46:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: quesney

As if law abiding gun owners are the problem.

Further, no law abiding gun owners are going to open carry around the convention and probably no place in Ohio this week. I mean, law abiding gun owners tend to have a modicum of common sense, and the last thing we want is to give the police a reason to drive us downtown for a talk, even if we have only innocent intentions.

This is a complete non issue that Fox News is trying to act like it is the end of the world. They are making Mt. Everest out of a mole hill.


93 posted on 07/17/2016 6:19:17 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: marstegreg

A Clinton appointed judge is going to do what a commie Clinton stooge will do. He knows his power can’t be overturned without a new law from the Ohio legislature, if that. He can still call it unconstitutional. And there is no time to appeal to a higher court.

Gwen is a commie stooge for the Marxist left. He will do whatever he can to help them. Rotten POS.


94 posted on 07/17/2016 6:22:00 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I hope we have a save convention. I fear the worst but hope for the best. I am so fearful for our city.


95 posted on 07/17/2016 6:33:21 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

I think the violence will be minor and on the fringe.

I think the Bikers for Trump are going to scare the bejeezus out of the protestors. I really do. They will be his personal safety army and they don’t scare.


96 posted on 07/17/2016 6:35:36 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: quesney
He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something -- I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN.

Hey! Mr. Loomis.

You and the rest of the leaders of this country want to know why this kind of terrible things happens in our country?

It is because of we are overflowing with reprobate minds in positions of authority and power who forget they are supposed to be leaders not masters , people who are in city state and federal government who think just like you!

It was people who think like you that had enslaved and denied the founders of our country, their basic God given rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that caused the founding fathers to try to insure us against with the Second Amendment law and the Constitutional document

You are not really concerned you are only trying to CYA by being able to say I told you so. You and the rest of the politicians like you don't care about every day people their rights or their lives or most of your employees either.

Some of the people are starting to awaken to that fact which is why they are listening to Donald Trump.

They know he is an outsider and the Repubertycan'ts Party establishment doesn't want him any more than the Demonicrats. It's not law abiding citizens who carry legal fire arms that are causing the problem or shooting at police officers its some few radical blacks and radical Islam.

It is not the law abiding carrying everyday people that are shooting blacks it is the police.

When you disarm the legally law abiding citizens you do two terrible things you deny them chance to defend themselves or family you only create the potential for them to be mass slaughtered like sheep.

You people who don't believe in gun ownership for the citizens deter crime ask yourself how the law finally stopped them.

It took more good people with guns than bad people with them.

The only way to stop a determined bad killer with a gun is another good man or woman with one.

All women should own a gun and know how to load, it care for it and use it.

It is the great equalizer for you and your children. If this thing between the blacks and the police keeps on and we don't regain our sanity the real enemies of this country the Islamic is going to use this senseless killing to start a race war and set back and laugh at us while we kill each other off because no one will know who to trust.

97 posted on 07/17/2016 10:18:38 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck ( When A People and Their Leaders Turn Back on God. He Turns Their Mind Repobate.)
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