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Why Cleveland police, not outside officers, will be handling arrests during RNC
Cleveland.com ^ | Cory Shaffer

Posted on 07/14/2016 1:57:45 PM PDT by Covenantor

Why Cleveland Police, Not Outside Officers, Will Be Handling Arrests During RNC

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Thousands of police officers from departments around the country will help Cleveland police provide security during the Republican National Convention, but those police officers won't be arresting anyone.

While those officers can detain anyone they feel has broken the law, a Cleveland police officer will actually make the decision whether to make a formal arrest, Deputy Cleveland Police Chief Ed Tomba told cleveland.com Wednesday.

Cleveland police will take the lead, partly because it's Cleveland's convention, Tomba said. But it also makes more sense to have Cleveland officers filing reports, complaints, and testifying in court, rather than officers from a patchwork of departments around the country.

"They are going to do what cops do, they're going to take action," Tomba said of the outside officers. "But it's going to be our job to get there and do any type of follow-up and make that arrest."

Tomba, Chief Calvin Williams and Assistant Director of Public Safety Ed Eckart outlined the plan in a meeting with cleveland.com reporters and editors Wednesday.

Here's how they say the plan will work:

Police have divided downtown into quadrants. The 500 Cleveland police officers and thousands of outside officers will be split between those quadrants. Each agency that sent officers also sent their own supervisors to oversee those officers.

Those outside supervisors will report to a Cleveland police supervisor.

A Cleveland police commander or captain will be in charge of each quadrant. All command-level decisions about deployment will come from either Williams, Tomba, or deputy chiefs Wayne Drummond or Joellen O'Neill.

If any outside officers see a situation unfolding that threatens the safety of someone or property damage, they are expected to respond immediately. They can handcuff a person and detain them. But the Cleveland police supervisor will respond to the scene, conduct any follow-up investigation, interview the detained person and the officer, and decide whether to arrest or release them.

The Cleveland police officer will file the report of the incident in Cleveland's record system, and any charges will be filed through Cleveland Municipal Court. The Cleveland officer would testify during any court proceedings, to avoid having to subpoena an officer from out of town to testify in court.

The outside police officers will effectively become a Cleveland police officer during the four-day convention, which begins Monday. They will be under the command of Williams, and will be covered by the city's insurance policy if they are injured or are accused of excessive force.

Every department that agreed to send officers here had to sign a memorandum of understanding. The agreement, among other things, required the departments to train their officers in Cleveland's mass arrest policies, which were altered last year to settle a lawsuit brought by the ACLU on behalf of dozens of protesters arrested following the acquittal of a Cleveland police officer charged in a 2012 deadly shooting.

"We want to put the agencies that are assisting us in the least amount of vulnerability as possible as far as arrests," Williams said.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; cleveland; elections; gopconvention; leo; ohio; police; rnc; security; trump
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To: Covenantor

Don’t know that that will be the case in Cleveland though...local politics.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Cleveland police union was on Fox News cable today, indicating they want to carry personal AR-15s in their squad cars in case needed. The Mayor turned them down.

I have a feeling they will have their ARs anyway, in spite of the mayor.

Anyone arrested will likely go down hard, and Obama’s apparatchiks, paid by Soros, will have their own share of pavement burns. This will be a showdown between the left and patriots. None of the left will likely get inside the convention hall, or be allowed to stay if they get their crap on.But outside could be a battle royal resulting in Obama exercising eminent domain based on “civil rights.”

Obama has the whole thing scripted, right down to the deployment of MSM camera crews. Its the Arab Spring way.


21 posted on 07/14/2016 2:35:56 PM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: dainbramaged
Someone is playing a dangerous game here.

Obama/Jarrett/Soros have been stirring the national uprising pot since day one. He wants to impose martial law, suspend the Constitution and declare himself Dictator for Life, a la Castro.

22 posted on 07/14/2016 2:47:45 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Candor7

I’m pleased to see that other police depts. are supporting Trump by sending officers to Cleveland. That says a a lot about the level of support.


23 posted on 07/14/2016 2:50:46 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Covenantor
Why?

Because behghazi was so long ago, and far away.

24 posted on 07/14/2016 2:56:51 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist
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To: ex91B10

A cop can detain anyone, anytime regardless of where he’s from. And they can demand your papers.


25 posted on 07/14/2016 3:43:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (hammer management)
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To: meatloaf

Actually the out of state officers need more target practice than they get at home. sarc/

I’m betting that the Cleveland Police Chief is as incompetent as the one in Chicago who is taking shotguns away from most officers, and the one in Minneapolis who is always a leftwing nutcase.

Welcome to the jungle!


26 posted on 07/14/2016 5:05:20 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: LucyT

This article is talking about a ‘stand-down’:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3449407/posts?page=1#1

???


27 posted on 07/14/2016 7:49:23 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Covenantor

This is how we operated as active duty military in JTF-6 Narcotics Interdiction Joint Task Force operations to avoid violations of posse comitatus. We had permission to detain but not arrest .

RNC is gonna be a mess, inside and outside IMO....... Socialist Democrats & MSM will incite and profit .


28 posted on 07/15/2016 4:35:05 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

This mess was planned by both parties.

I recall the 1968 riots in Washington DC which proved out the Defense Highway system as Eisenhower planned. I-495, the ring road around DC acted as the cordon sanitaire, MD, VA troopers manning the roadblocks with NG units assisting.

Federalized Airborne around WH and Capitol buildings. Full battle gear with APCs, jeeps with pintle mount MGs, M-14s locked and loaded with fixed bayonets. Looked like and was a war zone for days.

That’s what this admin wants to see again times ten.


29 posted on 07/15/2016 5:13:40 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Open carry is legal in Ohio and does not require a permit. However, it does not allow pointing a weapon at someone, threatening someone or brandishing the weapon. Those are arrestable offenses.”

Wouldn’t that depend on the reason for pointing it, i.e., self defense or defense of others?

It makes no sense to legalize open carry and then make it illegal to draw it.


30 posted on 07/15/2016 9:03:08 AM PDT by enumerated
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