[King Moonracer]

What was the point of having a primary then? Both political parties need to be outlawed.

[drypowder]

there is only the establishment party that controls DC and it’s all trickle down from there

[RitaOK]

Virginia will serve as the precedent setting ruling that will give cause to all other imperious states to challenge the First Ballot Rule of the Convention.

Either the delegate system has to go, or the primary election becomes a dead letter, and has to go.

They can no longer both co-exist with the other.

The Judiciary is assisting in bringing tyranny to America, in the name of conscience.

Funny there is no regard for “conscience” with respect to a bakery in Indiana, a Christian owned business, who was forced to serve queers cake in their “wedding”, or close.

Pense was no help whatsoever. A milquetoast, squish.

[Amendment10]

"What was the point of having a primary then? Both political parties need to be outlawed."

Thank you!

The presidential nominating process that the country now uses was forced on us by the constitutionally undefined political parties and has little to do with the process that the Founding States had enumerated in the Constitution.

”Article II, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

…

12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; ..."

Many patriots probably think that the presidential nomination processes of the political parties are constitutional only because they grew up with them.

The political parties exist to control 10th Amendment-protected state powers and uniquely associated state revenues that the corrupt feds have been stealing from the states for many generations.

• “Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• ”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Remember in November !

Patriots need to support Trump by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support Trump’s vision for making America great again for everybody, but will also put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes and unconstitutional federal interference in state affairs.

Note that such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

[Republican Wildcat]

Regardless of the motive - this is probably an appropriate ruling - as far as a state statute requiring delegates of a political party, which is a private organization, to behave in a certain manner in their own convention. The party has the jurisdiction to set its own rules on how delegates are distributed, which already would set how the delegates must be pledged in the primary. The party rules would also have to be changed in order to allow them just to do whatever they want.

[lepton]

Oh good grief.

FreeRepublic crazy time has hit again.

Traditionally and historically Electors have never been bound. They also have rarely voted for anyone other than who they were expected to support, aside from cases of no majority - and those almost entirely just to make an inconsequential point, like reversing the Presidential and Vice Presidential picks.

Electors and delegates both are selected based upon their membership and loyalty. Typically, they are picked from amongst the supporters of the candidates who won that sub-election. Where Trump won, he gets to pick Trump delegates.

With or without a law or rule, if you were a Trump supporter selected by a group of Trump supporters, would you vote for Kasich? Neither would prett much anyone else. The only issue here is that Trump bungled a few states and didn’t bother to put together a ground game to get his people on the slate. Even excluding those delegates, Trump still has a commanding lead among those delegates he did get picked.

There is a bit of play in the numbers, as the goal is to select a candidate who can win the election, not just the party’s internal favorite - but Trump’s numbers appear to be far in excess of where that matters, and even where the combination could come into play.

So far there is nothing here that I’ve read, except the courts saying the state legislature can’t mess with internal party processes...an eminently reasonable ruling.