Posted on 07/11/2016 7:27:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
LOL, reminds me of the classic SNL skit with Julian Bond.
Garrett Morris: Good evening, and welcome to "Black Perspective". I'm your host, Garrett Morris. Tonight our guest is Mr. Julian Bond, and we'll be talking about the myths surrounding black I.Q. Specifically, the myth that whites are inherently more intelligent than blacks.
Julian Bond: Good evening, Garrett.
Garrett Morris: Now, Julian, perhaps you could explain something to me. In all these studies comparing black I.Q. to white I.Q., what kind of test is used to measure I.Q.'s in the first place?
Julian Bond: Well, this is the major problem with these studies. The measurements of I.Q. which form the basis of comparison come from tests composed by whites for whites. The tests are culturally biased; it's not surprising that whites would score better than blacks.
Garrett Morris: Could you give us an example of what you're talking about?
Julian Bond: Certainly. Here are some questions that have appeared on recent I.Q. tests. Number one: "You have been invited over for cocktails by the officer of your trust fund. Cocktails begin at 4:30, but you must make an appearance at a 6:00 formal dinner at the Yacht Club. What do you do about dress?
A. Wear your blue-striped seersucker suit to cocktails and change into your tuxedo in the bathroom, apologizing to your host for the inconvenience.
B. Wear your tuxedo to cocktails, apologizing to your host for wearing a dinner jacket before 6:00 PM.
C. Walk to the subway at Columbus Circle and take the "A" Train uptown."
Garrett Morris: Uh.. I guess I'd choose the last one.
Julian Bond: I'm sorry, that's incorrect.
Garrett Morris: Damn.
Julian Bond: Here's another: "When waxing your skis for a cross-country run, you should..."
Garrett Morris: [ interrupting ] Well, I think I understand the problem with the tests. But the fact is that people have been saying that white people are smarter than black for hundreds of years. We've only had I.Q. tests for 20 or 30 years. How did the idea of white intellectual superiority originate?
Julian Bond: That's an interesting point. My theory is that it's based on the fact that light-skinned blacks are smarter than dark-skinned blacks.
Garrett Morris: [ not sure he heard that right ] Say what?
Julian Bond: I said I think it might have grown out of the observation that light-skinned blacks are smarter than dark-skinned blacks.
Garrett Morris: I don't get it.
Julian Bond: It's got nothing to do with having white blood. It's just that descendants of the lighter-skinned African tribes are more intelligent than the descendants of the darker-skinned tribes. Everybody knows that.
Garrett Morris: This is the first time I've heard of it.
Julian Bond: Seriously? It was proven a long time ago.
Garrett Morris: Well, I still don't quite understand. We're out of time right now, but perhaps you could come back on the show again and explain it further.
Julian Bond: There's very little to explain - it's just like I told you.
Garrett Morris: Well, we are out of time. Good night. [ to Julian ] If you could repeat it just once more... [ fade ] SNL Transcripts
That 74% illegitimacy rate is because of the welfare state. They don’t want fathers around because it cuts into the benefits, hence the breakdown of the family.
Until that’s addressed none of the rest will matter.
Well shoot I posted before I read all the comments. Lol
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It failed because there was never true separation. Separate independent countries each with their own sovereignty.
I understand that that would not be an easy thing for us to pull off, but the alternative is much worse (all out race war) which at the end would lead to the same result - separation.
The afrikaners are trying again...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania,_Northern_Cape
Give the benefit of doubt to whites no.
Assume any claim by a "minority" of a "hate crime" is false until proven true? Oh absolutely!
I deal in reality and the reality is that so far "hoax" is beating "real" like a red headed stepchild.
The vast majority of Americans of any color do not want a race war and are not going to engage in a race war. People need to quit being baited by the rabble rousers.
Very well said.
Interesting group. They seem to be as determined to separate themselves from English descended whites as they do from the various tribes of blacks in that region of the world. The whole construct of the Republic of South Africa was about as fractured as that of the former nation of Yugoslavia and probably doomed to fail for much the same reasons.
By my reckoning the major people groups in that area of the world are: Two large groups of European descendants; English and Dutch, with a history of conflict and even warfare with each other since the late 1600’s.
Three large African tribes (Zulu, Bantu, and Xhosa) that have their own histories of conflict and attempted dominance with each other going back 700 years and with the Europeans for the last 200.
And in the Durban area, a couple of million ethnic Indians, imported by the English to work on sugar plantations and that have achieved a fairly high level of economic prosperity, education, and local political clout.
You seem to have a greater awareness than most of us here in the States of the truly fractured group and tribal identities in the RSA, beyond the over-simplified “black & white” labels applied by the US media and race shills.
I got my awareness from quite a few visits there en route to Swaziland for missions work and a lot of self-study about the region. I find that area of the world and its history a fascinating subject.
True, but I was referring to the signs of the times.
Jesus Christ: You can't impeach Him and He ain't gonna resign.
We will have Obama and Bush 43 tomorrow attacking Trump indirectly citing the divisive language of some of our political leaders who attack ethnic groups and other minorities. Obama and the Bushes support Hillary.
"God gave Noah the rainbow sign
It won't be water, be fire next time."
-Guthrie
You’ve completely missed God.
“9) The elephant in the room is the breakdown of the Black American family. This was stressed to me by another black caller to my show. The disastrous, generational effects of fatherlessness are well-documented, and with illegitimacy in Black America at an almost unimaginable high of 74 percent, this is not simply a Black crisis; it is a national crisis. We got into this situation together, and we can only get out of it together.”
I don’t recall anything I did to get anyone into this situation. I’m also not seeing what I ought to do to get anyone out of it.
1) White Americans sometimes do not see racism when it is there; Black Americans sometimes see racism when it is not there.
High-mindedness requires one paint with broad brush strokes, and split the difference. First, it's not possible to talk about "White Americans" and "Black Americans." I have a black friend whose world view is much closer to mine than this self-professed "White Person."
The crucial difference is not skin color, but how one proposes to interact with fellow humans. I treat everyone the same way; I let them decide what they deserve. If they are self controlled and don't try to con me we'll get along just fine. Color is irrelevant. So I don't require them to deal with me, and no, I'm not racist.
Now, do many blacks see racism where it doesn't exist? Most definitely. In fact, there's a whole industry built around that, from The Rev. Jackson to " ethnic studies" to "diversity training."
So, am I saying racism doesn't exist? Of course not...it's just one form of ignorance, and the ignorant will always be with us. Is racism as it exists an obstacle to success? No more for blacks than for anyone else. In fact, I'd suggest the opposite.
The obstacles to success I see are self-inflicted. That, by definition, is not racist.
Let me emphasize that last point...and this one. The so-called " black community" is nowhere near as monolithic as we've been led to believe.
I think we can make allowance for this meaning “majority case.” This requires actually trying to see if there might be something behind the left’s complaint, however. It isn’t an exercise for the proud.
God would have a beef with a lot of Whitey that he is not proceeding on a gospel basis. In a place that never heard of Christianity that is one thing, but in a place that practically thumps its chest about it from time to time, that is quite another.
A kind of quasi-Christianity can be dangerous. Not saying that government should be enforcing Christianity, but that at least some of the love aspects that Christianity makes possible to see, should be enlightening it. A quasi-Christianity is dangerous because it raises expectations that can’t be met. Christianity made the Golden Rule possible to live out to an extent no other faith could, because it told credibly of a God that would reward even a sacrifice of life made for the purpose of extending the grace of God.
I’m with rockrr. Done. Meter is busted. I am not the one with the problem.
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