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Father accidentally shoots teenage son at Florida gun range
AP ^ | July 4, 2016 | AP

Posted on 07/04/2016 1:28:30 PM PDT by PROCON

SARASOTA, Fla. (AP) — Authorities say a 14-year-old boy was accidentally shot and killed by his father at a Florida gun range.

William Brumby was firing his weapon at the High Noon Gun Range in Sarasota on Sunday when a spent shell casing deflected off a nearby wall and landed inside the back of his shirt

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To: null and void

Not sure what State your in but I know in my state (Georgia) they may not like it, however it is Law and It can be done. Remember the Jury gets the last word on Guilt No Matter what. Also many do not understand Why it was so important to have Trail by Jury specified in the Constitution so they have a hard time understanding it is Law and It is there for a very specific reason, When Law is in Error, that Error can be Stopped by the People... “The Final Say”

God Bless

Something we need to remember as Citizens.

Side info: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/07/rethinking-jury-nullification/

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/jury+nullification


61 posted on 07/04/2016 2:46:45 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)
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To: PROCON

I’ve had this happen.

Rule #1: set your gun down on the table in front of you with the muzzle pointing towards the target.

Then, and only then, are you ready to get the shell out of your shirt.

The shells stings, but you are in no danger of being burned. Like the sign says: Stay Calm and...


62 posted on 07/04/2016 2:53:04 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Agreed.


63 posted on 07/04/2016 2:59:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: null and void

“The last three times I’ve been in a jury pool the presiding judges have each made it crystal clear that ‘this jury nullification nonsense’ would NOT be tolerated in their courts.”

Or what? The judge would throw the jury in jail for coming to the wrong verdict.

Jurors have a responsibility to come to a verdict, but they have zero responsibility to tell anyone WHY they came to a verdict.


64 posted on 07/04/2016 3:01:02 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: Secret Agent Man
How is it that casings can go from one lane to another?

My range seems that MOST casings from the guy to my left come flying over onto me. What would it take to cover the tops of the barriers?? Why are they not capped to the ceiling / or over 10 feet?

65 posted on 07/04/2016 3:05:23 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: PROCON

Put the weapon down first homer.
From Colonel Cooper:

RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET


66 posted on 07/04/2016 3:07:38 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Timpanagos1

“Only negligence is required for a charge of involuntary manslaughter. “

Negligence

Conduct that falls below the standards of behavior established by law for the protection of others against unreasonable risk of harm. A person has acted negligently if he or she has departed from the conduct expected of a reasonably prudent person acting under similar circumstances. from: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/negligence

By your definition any time a gun goes off someone should be taken to court, However reality and Common Sense show that this is not the case. You and I know very little at this point, surely not enough to Prove Total “Negligence”. Reflect on how many accidentally shooting have taken place, wait for Facts then we can discuss again. Until then Innocent until Proven Guilty. And I will repeat the Fact that a Good Father cannot be Punished much more for this that what he will do to himself in his Mind and Soul.

God Bless


67 posted on 07/04/2016 3:14:58 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)
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To: Vaquero

You preach to the choir here.


68 posted on 07/04/2016 3:18:46 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: PROCON

Dreadful. RIP.


69 posted on 07/04/2016 3:25:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: PROCON

Freak accidents happen, buy I believe that serious incidents like this can be avoided very simply, by FOLLOWING BASIC SAFETY RULES. I once had my mother, wife, two children and friends standing around me on a private range, when I loaded six bullets into my revolver. As I slid the cylinder into its spot, the primer on one of the bullets, that I had reloaded improperly, slid against the hammer and the round went off. The bullet didn’t hit anyone, despite the fact we were all standing together at the table up range, because of one simple thing: I had the muzzle pointed downrange, as you should. The worst of it was a nice powder burn in the palm of my hand where the flash came out the other side of the cylinder.


70 posted on 07/04/2016 3:26:04 PM PDT by dware (You called down the thunder, well now you got it!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Father should be in jail. How stupid

By your logic, Webster's Dictionary needs to redefine the term "Accident" to murder...............

The father and his family have to suffer from this "murderous accident" and now spend time in jail, according to you?. What would that accomplish and who will ultimately be the recipient of YOUR punishment?

This site is getting weirder by the day.........

71 posted on 07/04/2016 3:34:30 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Hillary and whoever = one big bowl of stupid!)
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To: PROCON
tried to remove the shell with his right hand, which was holding the gun

Pure stupidity.

Prayers for the boy.

72 posted on 07/04/2016 3:39:01 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Timpanagos1

Something about this does not seem right. I have had hot brass land inside my shirt. The first thing I did was lay the weapon down so I had the use of my hand to grab the hot brass.


73 posted on 07/04/2016 3:39:52 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN, CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Timpanagos1

Something about this does not seem right. I have had hot brass land inside my shirt. The first thing I did was lay the weapon down so I had the use of my hand to grab the hot brass.


74 posted on 07/04/2016 3:40:04 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN, CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: corkoman

$


75 posted on 07/04/2016 3:42:37 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know john 3:16)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The man is too stupid to be free. Imagine this moron driving a car.


76 posted on 07/04/2016 3:46:53 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

No he will punish himself for the rest of his life. It was a bizarre accident. It happens. Tragic.


77 posted on 07/04/2016 4:02:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Imagine this moron driving a car.

He's done it his entire legal driving life..........Your argument is a failure........

78 posted on 07/04/2016 4:13:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Hillary and whoever = one big bowl of stupid!)
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To: cloudmountain

“This story may be BS.”

Many ranges have video cameras and if this happened as reported there might be burn marks on the skin. There will also be a shell casing behind and to the left of the shooter.


79 posted on 07/04/2016 4:18:36 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: PROCON

Pistol ranges should have narrow booths with block walls that can fit only one person


80 posted on 07/04/2016 4:19:48 PM PDT by cassiusking
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