Posted on 06/25/2016 6:18:43 PM PDT by upchuck
Delaware, Pennsylvania, Connecticut and New Hampshire are proposing pilots to figure out how they might charge motorists a fee for the miles they travel — rather than taxing their gas, as state and federal officials do today.
The I-95 Corridor Coalition, which represents transportation officials from 16 states and the District of Columbia, applied for a federal grant last month to test the idea.
Officials would stitch together the policies and technologies needed to count the miles driven by 50 recruits from each of the four states, including state legislators, transportation officials or other willing guinea pigs. They would send out “faux invoices” monthly. And they would collect the data that legislatures — and the driving public — would require to decide if the change makes sense.
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How much you wanna bet "public servants" get exemptions from this, with more and more of them driving taxpayer-provided cars.
We'll never get to vote on this one. It'll be done by fiat, a fait accompli.
No more stupid @$$ wayz to separate folks from their hard earned tax dollars.
Good grief.
From: Retain Mike
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:16 PM
To: Lars Larson (talk@larslarson.com)
Subject: FW: Revised: O-DOT Plus GPS Equals KGB
We appear to have resolved the issue of NSA unrestricted data collection, but the Soviet Union's KGB would have greatly profited from technology placing GPS devices in vehicles for gasoline taxes. The devices provide for limitless personal travel histories with real time and historical vehicle collocations. The KGB could have precisely monitored Known Intelligence Officer (KIO), and key employees with much reduced human resources.
Consider Victor Sheymov who directed KGB cipher communications worldwide, and became the highest-ranking intelligence official to defect. Victor's first objective for escape was contacting a KIO. He circumvented multi-level surveillance included agents posing as foreigners, permanent listening and optical devises in restaurants and hotels, and stationary surveillance by Seventh Directorate "traffic officers" or agents in covert stations with powerful optics.
Such elaborate, labor-intensive methods proved effective because the U.S.S.R. restricted foreign travel. Those from NATO countries could qualify for multiple surveillance teams, and planted vehicle homing devices. Restricted travel meant direction-monitoring towers provided real time vehicle locations. GPS monitoring allows achieving the same objectives without limiting travel.
Just because you are not paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Is this government intrusion warranted? Victor escaped the Soviet Union, but where do we go?
Tower of Secrets by Victor Sheymov
I put nothing past the crowd down on Assembly street nowadays.
If NC adopts something like this ever, SC won’t be far behind.
I am 100% travel and 95 (thou it sucks), runs SC.
Since the EPA has been considered, and mostly passed a law that forbids aftermarket modification to cars, I’ll continue to drive an old car.
I would love to see, at least some Kabuchi theater, the state of PA and the EPA go at each other.
It won’t happen, I mean .... I’ll be left with the black eye but still.
OH, and it should be noted for those who aren’t familiar with it. Pennsylvania has the most draconian DMV laws in the nation. They DO NOT WANT YOU TO DRIVE A CAR.
You are correct, I have never seen a tax removed.
“They’ll tax both.”
Yup.
Lets tax the politicians because we allow them to represent us
Isn’t this already done on the NJ Turnpike. They have a toll booth at the beginning and depending on which exit/how far you go, you pay the printed fee. End to End is $13.85.
If there had never been such a thing as a fuel tax, this would probably not be nearly as controversial among conservatives as it is now.
Also: Will allow for post issuing of speeding tickets. Travel on I 95 will be time stamped thru I pass/ezpass. If average speed is greater than posted speed limit, presto a speeding ticket for something exorbitant will show up. They will collect by having reciprocity with other states to suspend license until fines paid.
They just want to be able to decide what you will do in all cases. They think they’re smart and we’re all numb.
This has been whispered for years. I’ve told friends it’s coming to all states within 5 years. They thought I was crazy. I hope they wake up now.
“For all its flaws, a mileage-based revenue stream is much closer to a true “pay-as-you-go” system. A car that gets 40 mpg causes just as much congestion as one that gets 20 mpg, so there’s really no reason why the driver of the 20-mpg car should effectively pay twice as much in taxes as the other one. “
Who says they won’t ‘adjust’ the road pricing due to gas mileage, greenhouse gasses, time of day, which particular road, income level, or Tea Party affiliation?
This opens a HUGE CAN OF WORMS that we would all be better, and freer, not having to deal with.
its just control, restriction and control, and of course more dough...
if some states do it, all states will eventually do it...
statist never cease in their desire to have all the peons money...
you can best believe that there will special dispensations for the ferals and the govt employees...
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