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Taking a (Le)Page from the Democrats
Townhall.com ^ | June 25, 2016 | Jerry Rogers

Posted on 06/25/2016 4:39:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: goldstategop

You forget: this is SNAP, i.e. food stamps. It’s the government subsidizing food purchases. Unlike what the idiot bloomberg was doing, this doesn’t affect those who want to buy their beer, soda, or salty food with their own money.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

Maine has an incredibly large part of it’s population that is welfare dependent. Handouts shouldn’t be pleasant. And Gov. LePage is making those handouts less pleasant. I suspect he is also trying to scuttle the food stamp program in Maine so it either goes away, or is taken over by the Feds and they get to deal with the administrative burden.


21 posted on 06/25/2016 5:01:56 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (islam overcomes America by 2050. Europe by 2025.)
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To: goldstategop

I would agree, except this is people spending taxpayer money in the form of SNAP benefits - this is not people spending their own money.


22 posted on 06/25/2016 5:02:27 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: goldstategop

For these programs ? The taxpayers get to decide. If they wish to subsidize junk or gourmet food for these recipients, that’s up to them. Frankly, the government needs to get out of the business of welfare altogether. So much waste and fraud.


23 posted on 06/25/2016 5:03:09 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: RKBA Democrat

And LePage knows poverty better than any other Governor in the United States. Folks should read up on his biography and Dickensian childhood.


24 posted on 06/25/2016 5:04:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kaslin

This is not the same as trying to regulate what independent people eat and drink, à la New York City. On the contrary, this is telling those who use our money to buy their food that they cannot use it for junk food or luxury food. There is nothing wrong with that. If they use their own money to buy food, then they can buy whatever they want.

This is no different than telling welfare recipients they must be clean on drug tests in order to collect our money.

As far as I’m concerned, people who select to depend on the government for survival really have no right to use taxpayer money frivolously, whether it is for drugs or junk food.

In every other situation, the government puts strict controls on how money is spent. A scientist who applies for a grant based on plans to study the molecular profile of stage 3 melanoma cells had better be ready to show how he spent that grant money studying stage 3 melanoma cells. A construction company that wins a bid to build a road between Baltimore and Philadelphia had better use the money to build that road. Etc. The government can and should tie strings to government money—it is, after all, our money and we have a right to see it used wisely.


25 posted on 06/25/2016 5:05:09 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: goldstategop

I would argue that the governor is not controlling what people eat, but rather what people buy with EBT cards.

They can still purchase food on the banned list but must do so with their own money.


26 posted on 06/25/2016 5:07:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: stockpirate

This jerk tries to be the libertarian and does not get Le Page, putting words in his mouth.
Read this which is the point:

“...if the USDA did not allow Maine to ban the purchase of certain foods – deemed by the governor to be unhealthy – he will scrap the entire program.”


27 posted on 06/25/2016 5:10:12 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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To: goldstategop

“LePage is anti-American.”

Really? Perhaps then you should take a look at the rules for the WIC program, which is similar to food stamps. Under that program, the food types that you can purchase are very limited. The idea being to subsidize food purchases for healthy foods for women, infants, and young children. Only food stamps allow you to buy twinkies, soda pop, and potato chips.

Oh and another thing, perhaps out west there isn’t so much fraud with SNAP/food stamps, but on the east coast it’s rife. One of the scams that is very popular in appalachia is for folks to buy soda at one store with their SNAP, and then sell it at a discount to another store and pocket the proceeds. This proposal would make that a lot more difficult as you couldn’t buy soda.


28 posted on 06/25/2016 5:12:31 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (islam overcomes America by 2050. Europe by 2025.)
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To: Kaslin

There are already similar restrictions on WIC. Why not lobby to get rid of those? There has to be SOME incentive to get off the government teat without abandoning the actual purpose of the program.


29 posted on 06/25/2016 5:12:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

Why SHOULD I pay for an EBTer’s lobster? Is the idea of SNAP to make sure people get basic healthy food? How much more basic food could be purchased if sale of lobster on EBT cards was banned?


30 posted on 06/25/2016 5:15:01 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kaslin
The trouble with the governor’s proposal is that it undermines conservative principles; ignores the Rule of law, and, damages our federalist system. Conservatives value the individual.

The trouble with SNAP is that it is a Federal program to begin with. Why should residents of my home state pay for the gimmedats in Maine?

Let Maine pay for Maine, or not. But, do not take it from me.

31 posted on 06/25/2016 5:15:35 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers.)
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To: goldstategop

I do not want the government interfering in my lifestyle either. That’s why even during a hard time in which we probably could have received food stamps, we didn’t apply.

Whoever provides for your family gets a say in how you live. Don’t want government interference? Don’t take government handouts.

WIC vouchers are extremely specific, food stamps could be changed in a similar manner.


32 posted on 06/25/2016 5:15:52 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: goldstategop

Well if I am buying their food, I have something to say about it IMO.

i don’t want to have to pay for their food and then also pay to cover medical costs from their poor eating habits.


33 posted on 06/25/2016 5:17:32 AM PDT by Principled (...the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others...)
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To: goldstategop

Of course I wouldn’t like it...but I buy my own beer, soda, and salt.


34 posted on 06/25/2016 5:19:02 AM PDT by Principled (...the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others...)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Exacly


35 posted on 06/25/2016 5:26:58 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Here is my solution. Establish EBT grocery stores that are for food stamp people only. The stores will carry only staple items and no luxury items. Food stamps are no good anywhere else.


36 posted on 06/25/2016 5:28:17 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: goldstategop

“Politicians have no business micromanaging people’s eating and drinking habits”

I disagree. They have a right to micromanage people’s eating habits when the taxpayer is paying for those eating habits.


37 posted on 06/25/2016 5:29:16 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: montag813; All

I don’t think all food stamp recipients are leeches...when my parents were divorced my mom applied for food stamps and she had a job that paid nothing (of course we were denied in part because we are white people)...

that said i 1000% agree with disallowing the purchase of soda, potato chips and junk food with food stamps and have said this for the longest time...they should only be allowed to purchase vegetables, milk, water, bread, meat,etc..

often times I see people paying with food stamps they are severely overweight and i would imagine in poor health (not all times)...hence taxpayers are not just paying for the food stamps but major medicals costs as well.


38 posted on 06/25/2016 5:31:16 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: albie; stockpirate

Fox News had that report a few years ago about that guy in California buying lobsters every week with his ebt card. The guy was unemployed but didn’t even bother to look for a job because he could play the guitar or the drums.


39 posted on 06/25/2016 5:32:07 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: goldstategop
Politicians have no business micromanaging people’s eating and drinking habits.

They do if I'm paying for it.

We’ve already given up a great deal of our freedom.

You're not free to squander MY money.

Let lePage mind his own business and we’ll mind ours.

LePage is doing is job, in slashing spending and looking out for the taxpayers....a rare bird in today's politics.

And speaking of minding your own business....justify that turd-world Califorina!

40 posted on 06/25/2016 5:40:37 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be our President.)
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