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To: SMARTY
What do you mean that the EU was NEVER a good idea?

The EU was a good idea in its lowest level as a union of different EUropean countries, preventing war.

They should move it to a confederation type, not the ever-closing unions, and this will move that caase

So many economies etc. - come on, Alabama has a different economy than Connecticut etc.

You're conflating the EU with the Eurozone.

53 posted on 06/24/2016 4:13:27 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Maybe-but if I had a brother or nephew who wouldn’t work, who wouldn’t save, who wouldn’t even consider being gainfully employed, but who wanted to move in with me and access my savings, my checking, etc. ... would THAT be a good idea?


55 posted on 06/24/2016 4:15:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: Cronos

Ah, but the U.S. also began as a true confederation of states with a Federal Government, and now the once much stronger states have been largely displaced by massive centralized federal government which really does act as sovereign.

Sure there is ebb and flow throughout history, but the overall direction is toward a sovereign governance over a subjected society.

It is even to the point now where those who are in power see the supreme law of our land as a speed bump to be removed, gone around, or ignored all together to achieve their objectives.

This is the natural end to giving up our own sovereignty as individuals and states.

Subjection will be the end of any such system.


62 posted on 06/24/2016 4:38:30 AM PDT by patriotfury (May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tent!)
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To: Cronos

Obama loves the EU just like you do. That says something about the “validity” of your opinion in this matter.


89 posted on 06/24/2016 6:37:30 AM PDT by ohioman
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