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To: BroJoeK
No need, it's all fantasy anyway.

Fantasy is the notion that a Nation founded on the God given principle of Independence, should think it appropriate to fight against other people's right to Independence.

559 posted on 07/12/2016 2:27:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Link to Urban Hipster "Cloud People" and the how they view us "Dirt People."

Cosmopolitan elites like to kid themselves about their love of universal rights and the common good, but it is total nonsense. Just take a look at their strongholds. These people talk like MLK, but they live like the KKK or like a KKK fantasy world. Our elites live in hyper-white exclusive communities. Many are gated and walled. Often, they have their own private security forces. A modern college community, for example, operates almost like an autonomous zone with their own government and police.

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8017

560 posted on 07/12/2016 2:38:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenezLamp: "Fantasy is the notion that a Nation founded on the God given principle of Independence, should think it appropriate to fight against other people's right to Independence. "

But your very definition is a fantasy.
The United States went to war in 1861 to defeat the military power that threatened it, assaulted it and declared war on it.
So "independence" alone did not and could not start war.
Military actions could and did.

599 posted on 07/14/2016 7:58:03 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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DiogenesLamp: "Fantasy is the notion that a Nation founded on the God given principle of Independence, should think it appropriate to fight against other people's right to Independence."

No, fantasy is the notion that Confederate military force which first provoked war, then started war and formally declared war on the United States, while supporting pro-Confederates in Union states, and then refused to seek peace on any terms short of "unconditional surrender" -- only fantasy could suggest that those Confederates were anything other than politically insane.

639 posted on 07/17/2016 8:37:15 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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