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Great arguments and observations, DL.

For all of Teddy's expansion of the feral gimmint, he is to be lauded for his trademark integrity of standing up TO bullying -- of Crony Capitalist 'Robber-Barons' and Money-Changers (to which Lincoln folded like a cheap rug, ushering the age of the Sell-Out, Wilson bent over into a pretzel, and our "co-Presidents" -- Clintons turned into an art-form.)

As you remind us, the record certainly indicts a post CW Union (specifically, vampires from the North, more specifically, New England's cadre of olde monied elites) of rampant profiteering and opportunistic crooks. Funny how they profited from the blood of the new immigrants -- drafted immediately so they could spill *their* blood instead of the wealthy New Englanders' sons who would be the beneficiaries.

Proponents of Lincoln's "Union" -- retained only by a mass suicide mission and coercion -- still shout from their ivory towers, boasting of a "moral mandate" of a war that was NEVER fought over "slavery."

Post Civil War America was rampant with abuse by New England Robber Barons. The coal strikes and Unionization occurring in West Virginia was the consequence of the price monopoly that New York captains of industry had imposed on the Coal industry.

Again, where did they get such power? Why did it so heavily manifest itself after the Civil War?

Because the Civil War was where it began.

Bears repeating and contemplation. I say this as born and bred in the US northeast, in the belly of the beast. It probably took a good 125 years the buck-tooth, redneck, un-educated, un-cultured Bible-Belted South to catch up, economically. ITMT, the North began worshiping Dewey, Humanism, and itself; the South's "in-sophisticates" remained "backward" remained worshipers of the Lord.

[T]his is a point many people do not grasp when the topic of the "Civil War" comes up. We are still suffering from the long term consequences of that conflict to this very day.

Amen. "Yankee" values took over socially as well as in Academia. Had the South seceded, one wonders how much the Confederacy would have turned out with its Christian-heavy ethics, education system and values? Instead the North mandated Dewey and its Humanist-based culture and values.

Another observation -- who has the US gummint and its military depend on mightily to fight every subsequent war? THE SOUTH. The irony is not lost on those of us for whom REAL history is pertinent.

Washington and New York still have an unholy alliance that pits the financial interests of the New England power brokers against the rest of the nation. This movement towards "Globalization" is an example of it.

Absolutely true. And well stated.

Should have pinged you to post 749.

As you remind us, the record certainly indicts a post CW Union (specifically, vampires from the North, more specifically, New England's cadre of olde monied elites) of rampant profiteering and opportunistic crooks. Funny how they profited from the blood of the new immigrants -- drafted immediately so they could spill *their* blood instead of the wealthy New Englanders' sons who would be the beneficiaries.

During the riots of New York (a cleaned up version which can be glimpsed in the movie "Gangs of New York) the rioters were outraged that for $300.00 you could get out of being drafted. Slaves of the time cost $1,000.00 and they were incensed that their life's worth was regarded as less than that of a slave. To show their displeasure with the situation, they beat and lynched many blacks. (Just goes to show you how much brotherly love New Yorkers really had for the slaves.)

Who could afford the $300.00 to get themselves out of the war? Why the people who initiated it! The Wealthy and Elite of New England!

Bears repeating and contemplation. I say this as born and bred in the US northeast, in the belly of the beast. It probably took a good 125 years the buck-tooth, redneck, un-educated, un-cultured Bible-Belted South to catch up, economically. ITMT, the North began worshiping Dewey, Humanism, and itself; the South's "in-sophisticates" remained "backward" remained worshipers of the Lord.

This is another point I have long contemplated. Is it because the South became so poor that it kept turning to religion for comfort? Did this make them a more morally sensitive people?

I've also noticed a correlation in history between money and debauchery. It seems that the more wealth a community has, the more liberal it becomes. Look at a map of our cities today. You will find Liberalism concentrated in the Cities, and the more Wealthy they are, the deeper and more consistent is their adherence to Liberalism.

Amen. "Yankee" values took over socially as well as in Academia. Had the South seceded, one wonders how much the Confederacy would have turned out with its Christian-heavy ethics, education system and values? Instead the North mandated Dewey and its Humanist-based culture and values.

And I often wonder how much of that is the result of the "Cosmopolitan" World view of major trading cities such as New York, Boston and San Fransisco. I sense that repeated close contact with Foreign populations, thoughts and ideas may do quite a lot towards stripping off their own native culture and supplanting it with one of moral relativism.

I think the evidence leans towards many Socialist/ Moral-relativism ideas germinating in Europe, and being brought into this country through our ports.

Absolutely true. And well stated.

I have started to believe that the enemy we are facing today, is the same enemy both halves of the Nation faced in 1860. The Smug, Morally superior Wealthy Elite of New England, who felt that they needed to impose on the rest of us, not only their fiscal control, but their recently acquired Moral opinions. "Change" if you will.

Did not "Abortion" and "Gay Marriage" follow this same formula? Do not most left wing causes began among this cadre of people?

In the Book "Leftism Revisited"

Erik Von Kuehnelt-Leddihin relates that all left wing movements initially began with the wives and families of the elite and powerful.

His initial example was the "French Revolution." It was stirred up and financed by the wives and spoiled offspring of the Lords of France.

HangUpNow's Alinskyite-rant: "As you remind us, the record certainly indicts a post CW Union (specifically, vampires from the North, more specifically, New England's cadre of olde monied elites) of rampant profiteering and opportunistic crooks...."

I'm no expert on Reconstruction, but it does seem that Lincoln's "better angels of our nature" somewhat deserted the country for a time.
So why would any non-Marxist focus on things like "rampant profiteering" when more serious post-Civil War problems in the South are represented by the KKK, lynchings & disenfranchisement of black voters, segregation and discrimination against African-Americans?