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To: HangUpNow
As you remind us, the record certainly indicts a post CW Union (specifically, vampires from the North, more specifically, New England's cadre of olde monied elites) of rampant profiteering and opportunistic crooks. Funny how they profited from the blood of the new immigrants -- drafted immediately so they could spill *their* blood instead of the wealthy New Englanders' sons who would be the beneficiaries.

During the riots of New York (a cleaned up version which can be glimpsed in the movie "Gangs of New York) the rioters were outraged that for $300.00 you could get out of being drafted. Slaves of the time cost $1,000.00 and they were incensed that their life's worth was regarded as less than that of a slave. To show their displeasure with the situation, they beat and lynched many blacks. (Just goes to show you how much brotherly love New Yorkers really had for the slaves.)

Who could afford the $300.00 to get themselves out of the war? Why the people who initiated it! The Wealthy and Elite of New England!

Bears repeating and contemplation. I say this as born and bred in the US northeast, in the belly of the beast. It probably took a good 125 years the buck-tooth, redneck, un-educated, un-cultured Bible-Belted South to catch up, economically. ITMT, the North began worshiping Dewey, Humanism, and itself; the South's "in-sophisticates" remained "backward" remained worshipers of the Lord.

This is another point I have long contemplated. Is it because the South became so poor that it kept turning to religion for comfort? Did this make them a more morally sensitive people?

I've also noticed a correlation in history between money and debauchery. It seems that the more wealth a community has, the more liberal it becomes. Look at a map of our cities today. You will find Liberalism concentrated in the Cities, and the more Wealthy they are, the deeper and more consistent is their adherence to Liberalism.

Amen. "Yankee" values took over socially as well as in Academia. Had the South seceded, one wonders how much the Confederacy would have turned out with its Christian-heavy ethics, education system and values? Instead the North mandated Dewey and its Humanist-based culture and values.

And I often wonder how much of that is the result of the "Cosmopolitan" World view of major trading cities such as New York, Boston and San Fransisco. I sense that repeated close contact with Foreign populations, thoughts and ideas may do quite a lot towards stripping off their own native culture and supplanting it with one of moral relativism.

I think the evidence leans towards many Socialist/ Moral-relativism ideas germinating in Europe, and being brought into this country through our ports.

Absolutely true. And well stated.

I have started to believe that the enemy we are facing today, is the same enemy both halves of the Nation faced in 1860. The Smug, Morally superior Wealthy Elite of New England, who felt that they needed to impose on the rest of us, not only their fiscal control, but their recently acquired Moral opinions. "Change" if you will.

Did not "Abortion" and "Gay Marriage" follow this same formula? Do not most left wing causes began among this cadre of people?

In the Book "Leftism Revisited"

Erik Von Kuehnelt-Leddihin relates that all left wing movements initially began with the wives and families of the elite and powerful.

His initial example was the "French Revolution." It was stirred up and financed by the wives and spoiled offspring of the Lords of France.

552 posted on 07/12/2016 12:54:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I have started to believe that the enemy we are facing today, is the same enemy both halves of the Nation faced in 1860. The Smug, Morally superior Wealthy Elite of New England, who felt that they needed to impose on the rest of us, not only their fiscal control, but their recently acquired Moral opinions. "Change" if you will.

Did not "Abortion" and "Gay Marriage" follow this same formula? Do not most left wing causes began among this cadre of people?

Affirmative.

These are the very same smug elites who reject the Judeo-Christian ethic, our traditions and heritage. Through Dewey, America has been indoctrinated for the last century by the religion of Secular Humanism, featuring Self as "God." Ergo, we find ourselves governed at the very top by fascists and moral relativists. Thus we are for the most part divided, conquered, confused, and heading to Hell in a very large handbasket. For their part, the governing elites get to live their mortal lives well.

Is it because the South became so poor that it kept turning to religion for comfort? Did this make them a more morally sensitive people?

I've also noticed a correlation in history between money and debauchery.

The simple equation as just stated:

The North tended to adhere to Secular Humanist values; The South retained its Judeo-Christian values. "Southern Hospitality" has its root in its collective faith. Their faith helped keep them focused, and wisely placed a premium on investing in the destination of their soul. One can not have two masters.

You notations on the draft and how the wealthy were able to evade *their* sons bleeding and dying for Lincoln's war were worthy observations.

601 posted on 07/15/2016 9:31:26 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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