The Susan Collins Gun Control Amendment is a Nightmare For Innocent Americans

townhall.com ^ | 6/22/2016 | Katie Pavlich

[dartuser]

If our government has determined that an individual is too dangerous to fly on an airplane, that person should not have the opportunity make a legal firearm purchase BE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!

Why is this so hard?

[fella]

[Cboldt]

DHS already has the bureacracy in place, due to issues that arise with no fly.

See "Redress Control Number"

[justlurking]

This is a starting point for negotiation.

But, as the author points out: what we really need are due process rights for anyone on the "no-fly" and "watch" lists. We don't have that now -- if you are on the list, you can't challenge it. Evidence against you can be kept secret.

Frankly, tying the lists to a civil right is a step in the right direction, because it gives the target a tool to challenge them. But, as far as I can tell, the challenger can't actually get removed from the list -- they just get the prohibition lifted and can buy the firearm.

Ultimately, I'd like to see the lists eliminated altogether. If a US citizen is under suspicion, arrest him and charge him or leave him alone. If a non-US citizen is under suspicion, deport him.

[Red in Blue PA]

Bears repeating.....and a larger font size

This places the burden of proof on the appellant, which is not where it belongs. The government needs to establish a clear and present danger before restricting any citizen’s constitutional rights, and should suffer harsh penalties if it errs.

[justlurking]

DHS already has the bureacracy in place, due to issues that arise with no fly.

This is for "correction of errors", not for an actual challenge.

A typical error was matching on a common name. A classic example was Ted Kennedy: his name was used as an alias by someone actually on one of the lists, and he was denied boarding.

This was back in the early days when the airlines were responsible for the matching. Now, the TSA does the matching and feeds the info back to the airline, and the redress control number is how you "correct" it.

It doesn't change the presence of your name on a list -- it just give you a "key" to be excluded from a match.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Whatever is in place now won't be enough if no-fly/no buy passes because one method of gun control via an expanded no-fly list will be in place.

The goal will be to get as many on that list as possible & to make it next to impossible to remove a name. All it takes is mountains of red tape and an expensive legal process.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Thanks for the clarification!

[Cboldt]

-- The goal will be to get as many on that list as possible & to make it next to impossible to remove a name. All it takes is mountains of red tape and an expensive legal process. --

Yep. Same devices used in Washington, DC, Chicago, Illinois, California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts - convert a right into a privilege, and make it onerous to get permission.

[bruoz]

Susan Collins is one of the Weimar Republicans ready to hand the Hitlery party the tools of tyranny.

[nobamanomore]

Republicans have to get rid of this woman, and the one in Alaska, McCain, Graham, Kirk, who do the Dems will every damn time it’s something important. I am so sick of seeing the same names voting with the Democrats time after time. GTFO!

[DPMD]

I nominate Susan Collins as the first name to go on the new list, followed by her squadron of heavily armed bodyguards.

[sauropod]

I will not comply.

‘Pod.

[ZULU]

If the horse’s @$$ is inundated with e-mails, calls and letters, it might take some of the varnish off her elitist nose. She reminds me of Chrissie Whitman and Millicent Fenwick. Sort of like a Rodney Frelinghuysen with a brain.

[Chickensoup]

Sort of like a Rodney Frelinghuysen with a brain.

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I assure you not much brain.

[ZULU]

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