Posted on 06/23/2016 4:03:26 AM PDT by Elderberry
Earlier this week four different gun control bills were predictably voted down in the Senate. Now, as Matt has reported, Senators will vote on yet another piece of legislation introduced by Maine Republican Susan Collins.
"The bipartisan 'Terrorist Firearms Prevention Act of 2016' would prevent people who are on the No Fly List or the Selectee List from purchasing firearms. If our government has determined that an individual is too dangerous to fly on an airplane, that person should not have the opportunity make a legal firearm purchase," Collins office released yesterday in a white paper. "Due process principles require that Americans denied their right to purchase a firearm under this provision have the opportunity to appeal this denial to a federal court."
"To ensure appropriate oversight and transparency, the Attorney General would be required to report to the Intelligence and Judiciary Committees of the House and Senate on the number of persons denied a firearm, the number of appeals filed, and number of persons who prevailed in their appeals under the provisions of this Act," the memo continues.
By Collins' own admission, this proposal still strips due process and takes away Second Amendment rights before an appeal, boiling down to an absolute bureaucratic nightmare. Although Collins' effort to prevent terrorists from purchasing firearms is noble, her amendment is an absolute nightmare for innocent Americans who end up on these secret, government terrorism no-fly and "selectee" lists.
First, let's look at the details:
What the Amendment Does:
1. Gives the AG the authority to deny firearms sales to individuals who appear on the No Fly List or the Selectee List.
2. Provides a process for Americans and green card holders to appeal a denial in U.S. Court of Appeals and to recover their reasonable attorneys fees if they prevail.
3. Sets forth a procedure for protecting classified information during the appeal.
4. Protects ongoing FBI counter-terrorism investigations by giving the AG the discretion to allow gun sales to go forward to individuals covered by this Act.
5. Includes a “look-back” provision that ensures prompt notification to the FBI if a person who has been on the broader Terrorism Screening Database (TSDB) within the past five years purchases a firearm.
And the rebuttal:
1. The Attorney General will now determine who is or is not a terrorist and incapable of purchasing a firearm? Doubtful. The No-Fly and Selectee list are already poorly managed, are full of Americans in addition to foreigners and the Attorney General doesn't have the resources to analyze 109,000 people individually in order to deny or approve a gun sale.
2. After being stripped of their Second Amendment rights for landing on a No-Fly list, Americans can retroactively seek due process through appealing a denial in court. Further, attorney fees can be recovered so long as a a defendant wins their case against the U.S. government? After hours, days, weeks and potentially years spent buried in paperwork, government bureaucracy, missed work, stress and thousands of attorney's fees to prove innocence? How generous....Americans can't even get through the DMV in a timely fashion, not to mention getting through a court appeal with the federal government after being improperly placed on a secret list.
3. If classified information is involved in an appeal and must be protected, it will be impossible for a regular, every day American who is innocent but on the lists to make their case and quickly win an appeal.
4. Again, the Attorney General does not have the resources to get involved in the minutia, especially with a list containing thousands of names.
5. This is the best part of the proposal, but the problem of innocent Americans being on the list again strips due process.
The bottom line is that until Congress can clearly define a process and standard for which people are placed on the terror No-Fly list, Terror Watch list or Selectee list, innocent Americans will be punished and stripped of their rights due to a bloated, bureaucratic system. The lists must be cleaned up and tailored to fit those who are truly associated with terrorism before we can prevent them from legally purchasing firearms.
Why is this so hard?
See "Redress Control Number"
But, as the author points out: what we really need are due process rights for anyone on the "no-fly" and "watch" lists. We don't have that now -- if you are on the list, you can't challenge it. Evidence against you can be kept secret.
Frankly, tying the lists to a civil right is a step in the right direction, because it gives the target a tool to challenge them. But, as far as I can tell, the challenger can't actually get removed from the list -- they just get the prohibition lifted and can buy the firearm.
Ultimately, I'd like to see the lists eliminated altogether. If a US citizen is under suspicion, arrest him and charge him or leave him alone. If a non-US citizen is under suspicion, deport him.
This is for "correction of errors", not for an actual challenge.
A typical error was matching on a common name. A classic example was Ted Kennedy: his name was used as an alias by someone actually on one of the lists, and he was denied boarding.
This was back in the early days when the airlines were responsible for the matching. Now, the TSA does the matching and feeds the info back to the airline, and the redress control number is how you "correct" it.
It doesn't change the presence of your name on a list -- it just give you a "key" to be excluded from a match.
The goal will be to get as many on that list as possible & to make it next to impossible to remove a name. All it takes is mountains of red tape and an expensive legal process.
Thanks for the clarification!
Yep. Same devices used in Washington, DC, Chicago, Illinois, California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts - convert a right into a privilege, and make it onerous to get permission.
Susan Collins is one of the Weimar Republicans ready to hand the Hitlery party the tools of tyranny.
Republicans have to get rid of this woman, and the one in Alaska, McCain, Graham, Kirk, who do the Dems will every damn time it’s something important. I am so sick of seeing the same names voting with the Democrats time after time. GTFO!
I nominate Susan Collins as the first name to go on the new list, followed by her squadron of heavily armed bodyguards.
I will not comply.
‘Pod.
If the horse’s @$$ is inundated with e-mails, calls and letters, it might take some of the varnish off her elitist nose. She reminds me of Chrissie Whitman and Millicent Fenwick. Sort of like a Rodney Frelinghuysen with a brain.
Sort of like a Rodney Frelinghuysen with a brain.
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I assure you not much brain.
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