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Pope on death penalty: 'Thou shalt not kill' is absolute
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20160621_ap_26e2fb9745634a289db029e31bcfd555.html ^

Posted on 06/21/2016 12:32:44 PM PDT by Phillyred

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To: waterhill

LOL. Maybe that is why he keeps saying these things. The Vatican has linked a generator to Peter’s tomb to keep the lights on.


41 posted on 06/21/2016 12:52:28 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: circlecity

That quote is relevant but so is the context. First, it predates Mosaic Law by centuries. Second, it was a command given by God immediately after He destroyed the earth by water.

I.e.: the sinfulness of mankind had reached such a level that God destroyed all but Noah and his immediate family. After bringing the survivors out of the Ark, and in preparation for the Covenant of the Rainbow, God issued His command that whoever shed blood, by man’s hand his blood should be shed.

Should we not take the command of God seriously in the immediate aftermath of the destruction of all but eight souls?


42 posted on 06/21/2016 12:53:19 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Phillyred

Almost shocking. His Eminence either doesn’t know the full counsel of scripture or does and disregards the true meaning of the commandment to satisfy his earthly allegiance to political correctness. Either way it’s an amazing thing to see from the exulted seat of what is purportedly the original author’s divinely appointed rep on Earth. Shaa! Right!


43 posted on 06/21/2016 12:55:06 PM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: miliantnutcase

I believe you’re right but catholicism seems to ignore the original languages in favor of Latin.


44 posted on 06/21/2016 12:55:42 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Phillyred

Creepy old communist Francis taking a break from celebrating the Muslim Rape of Europe to spout some different lies and nonsense.


45 posted on 06/21/2016 12:56:14 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Trump - Because countries without Islamic immigration are countries without Islamic terrorism.)
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To: Phillyred; All

On the bright side, Pope Francis is showing that anybody can become Pope, just like Obama has shown that anybody who can read a teleprompter can become president. /sarc

Note that the Pope’s misguided comments about the death penalty blindly ignore that G-d established the death penalty as punishment for ancient Israelites who broke certain Levitical laws for example.


46 posted on 06/21/2016 12:58:10 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: PghBaldy

6. Do Not Murder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RENPaY043o


47 posted on 06/21/2016 12:58:45 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Phillyred

48 posted on 06/21/2016 1:00:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Dagnabitt

Creepy old communist Francis taking a break from celebrating the Muslim Rape of Europe to spout some different lies and nonsense.

That about summs it up.

I MISS JOHN PAUL.


49 posted on 06/21/2016 1:00:28 PM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Phillyred

I’m pretty certain that the Commandment says “Thou shalt not MURDER”, murder being the unjustified, intentional taking of the life of an innocent.

The taking of the life of a violent aggressor in the act of assaulting another with clear intent to do grievous bodily harm or KILL is NOT MURDER.


50 posted on 06/21/2016 1:01:52 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Thank God for the Reformation teachers and their Scriptural teachings

What is the solution to some fool imposing his own ideosyncratic theology onto the Church? Having a hundred fools do it? Or a million? What is Francis doing that Luther didn't already do before him?

Sorry, but there's a simpler answer. If the Pope thinks his personal opinions have more weight than the Church's teaching from time immemorial, then *he needs to be deposed*. Publicly. Visibly. And definitively.

51 posted on 06/21/2016 1:02:09 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Phillyred

How about the millions of people killed by communism and socialism in the past hundred years?

Or the newest deaths in Venezuela caused by idiots who believe in socialism? Does our ‘dear’ Pope give a damn about those deaths?


52 posted on 06/21/2016 1:02:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (When a Muslim terrorist shoots up a gay bar, it's not gun violence.It's Islamic terrorism.Greenfield)
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To: Fido969

He’s backpedaling on Just War Theory as well.
I’m afraid we’re going full-pacifist here.


53 posted on 06/21/2016 1:04:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fido969

“Well, he’s going to have to re-write the Catechism then.”

And the Bible, for that matter. The Hebrew word translates to “murder,” not “kill.”

Large difference.


54 posted on 06/21/2016 1:05:29 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Phillyred
Why is it that leftists are the happiest whenever this Pope opens his mouth?

Because he's actively creating huge rifts in the church. He's single-highhandedly done more damage than any atheist ever tried to do.

55 posted on 06/21/2016 1:06:04 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Claud
*he needs to be deposed*. Publicly. Visibly. And definitively.

Yeah, right. You can't even get three Cardinals to agree on the wording of Eucharistic Prayers.


56 posted on 06/21/2016 1:06:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Phillyred

The Hebrew word in the Commandment means “Thou shalt not MURDER.”

I thought Jesuits studied the ancient Bible languages...that’s why it supposedly takes them so long to graduate.


57 posted on 06/21/2016 1:06:54 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Claud

You missed the point. I said the Reformation teachers and their scriptural TEACHINGS. Add to them the resulting Protestant Ethic coupled with resulting broad literacy and we were all advanced. But for the Reformation and the Doctrine of Sola Scriptura we would all be ignorant and enslaved by priest craft.


58 posted on 06/21/2016 1:08:58 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Phillyred

That’s an interesting and novel take...and novel meaning, “this position has never been articulated by the RC church before ...ever.”

Oh, well, I guess tradition doesn’t matter so much.


59 posted on 06/21/2016 1:12:54 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Phillyred

Hey, umm, Pope, you’re not reading the 10 Commandments the right way. Maybe you need to brush up on your Hebrew. The 6th Commandment says, “Thou shalt not murder.”

Murder is not killing. Yes, a murder victim is also killed, by definition, but murder is an unlawful killing. The Hebrew Bible contains numerous prohibitions against unlawful killing, but also contains prescriptive imperatives for the lawful killing in the context of warfare, capital punishment, and self-defense.


60 posted on 06/21/2016 1:13:34 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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