[Joe Boucher]

We practice stalls,
Then IF you ever encounter one,
You instinctively react to recover from one.

Simple actions lost on pilots who only fly by computer.

[CodeToad]

The Bagram flight lost its horz stab when the load shifted and damaged the turn screw. So, the crew were doomed.

[Swordmaker]

We practice stalls,
Then IF you ever encounter one,
You instinctively react to recover from one.

Simple actions lost on pilots who only fly by computer.

I know you do. . . but you have to have a flyable plane to do that, not one that has the tail surfaces incapable of any movement as in the case of the Bagram 747. And you have to have a living, capable pilot present and powered on engines as in the case of TWA-800.