[Swordmaker]

You still have no evidence of a timeline of the weight and balance shift, no one can know that not even the NTSB. At what point did the weight shift overcome the ability of the wing to provide lift and the stall occur? No on can precisely tell, no one knows how the weight shift occurred in relation to time. I’m done with this discussion.

Actually we do. We have the radar traces of the nose section from within last transponder return and its appearance as a separate passive radar return on the next sweep. From that it can be calculated that the initiating event that resulted in the nose being separated occurred about 2 seconds after the last transponder return based on the distance of the nose from the rest of the aircraft.

[VTenigma]

I was not replying to you I was replying to moonman about the Bagram 747 that went down do to cargo shift. You I’m in total agreement with.