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Two planes undertake dangerous South Pole rescue mission
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Posted on 06/19/2016 3:08:40 PM PDT by ameribbean expat

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To: Scrambler Bob
Right Bob, that is why I said S/E. ☺
21 posted on 06/19/2016 6:09:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Scrambler Bob

When I should have said N/E...LOL


22 posted on 06/19/2016 6:10:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Zeneta

We had to pace measured distances, and make turns using our compass in Scout Camp, to determine the correct target in the compass course.

That, and some surveying and engineering inculcated those Northerly biases.


23 posted on 06/19/2016 6:11:14 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: dragnet2

Or maybe just N?????


24 posted on 06/19/2016 6:14:08 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

On a side note.

Does a traditional compass still point “North” when you are standing on the south pole?

Or does it just spin around endlessly?


25 posted on 06/19/2016 6:21:06 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Scrambler Bob

But north would be in any direction. For example, how would one describe a specific direction if one did not use N/W or N/E?


26 posted on 06/19/2016 6:25:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I believe one would have to step away from the S pole marker to be able to accurately use specific directional terms such as N/E etc.


27 posted on 06/19/2016 6:32:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Zeneta

I don’t know, but I would not want to trust one.

Compass points to Magnetic North, which is shifting, and is not located at the North Pole.

I remember reading of one of the South Pole explorations (forgot which one) had trouble, and had to get back to help.

The navigator got them to an island, and they got rescued. Difficult navigation with sextant, etc., due to being down there at the bottom of the sphere. I think there was no loss of life.

I actually got to see the Fram ship, used for some of those Polar expeditions (probably not the one related to the rescue).

Don’t know why these cold polar expeditions are so interesting to me. Maybe due to shoveling snow, getting car unstuck from cold and icey sliding off the road, and hiking with friends through deep snow, just for a Saturday hike (cold, wet, dark, ... and we have to go back through it to get home).


28 posted on 06/19/2016 6:34:56 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: dragnet2

Agree

Would have to use Lat/Long as a target, to be precise, I think.


29 posted on 06/19/2016 6:37:28 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Prayers for all involved.


30 posted on 06/19/2016 6:51:05 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: dragnet2

If you are at the Amundsen-Scott Station would not all positions be north of you? SE wouldn’t describe any point.


31 posted on 06/19/2016 6:52:00 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: BatGuano

See #26 and 27


32 posted on 06/19/2016 6:54:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2; Scrambler Bob

On another side note.

Some people, mostly men, have a sense of direction. I mean, they/we somehow know what is north.

For us older men that have actually looked at a map, on paper, it is always oriented with North at the top. Always.

Today’s navigation systems are most often used by people that are more comfortable with a “Perspective” view.

They lose all sense of direction.

I just spoke with someone that was trying to conduct a Military training exercise with a number of recruits. The recruits asked if they could buy a $200 GPS navigation system to complete their task. The request went up the chain of command and their advocate had to tell the brass that they simply don’t know how to read a map.


33 posted on 06/19/2016 7:24:23 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: COBOL2Java

Vostok site set a new record last week or recently for lowest recorded temp...-80.3 degrees if I remember reading that correctly.

Gonna be quite a ride. Prayers for all involved.


34 posted on 06/19/2016 7:24:38 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Gay State Conservative
RE: Cute Marine Biologist ...can't recall the name...but I*do*recall she was a female(and rather Cute). So, did you Flip 'er?
35 posted on 06/19/2016 7:25:44 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Zeneta; Lurker

As went morse code so goes the compass sadly ....... not giving up my semaphore flags damnit !.....:o)


36 posted on 06/19/2016 7:27:29 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

Squanto should know the value of “Smoke Signals”


37 posted on 06/19/2016 7:29:50 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Scrambler Bob
I remember reading of one of the South Pole explorations (forgot which one) had trouble, and had to get back to help. The navigator got them to an island, and they got rescued. Difficult navigation with sextant, etc., due to being down there at the bottom of the sphere. I think there was no loss of life.

That was the Ernest Shackleton expedition. Their ship Endurance got caught and crushed in the sea ice, they departed in three lifeboats to Elephant Island, from which they sent a single lifeboat to South Georgia Island, where they were able to locate help and eventual rescue of all. Every man was saved.

38 posted on 06/19/2016 7:30:39 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: dragnet2

You are correct, one would have to choose the desired north.


39 posted on 06/19/2016 7:38:43 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Squantos

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40 posted on 06/19/2016 7:40:12 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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