Posted on 06/19/2016 9:39:18 AM PDT by ErikJohnsky
Well stated. Perot took votes from the conservative, pro-American side; he wouldn’t have if Bush had been a better candidate. Perot never believed he was going to win; he ran out of vanity and hatred for Bush. Absent Perot, Clinton would never have been elected.
I voted for Perot. And there was no way in hell I was going to vote for daddy Bush. EVERY other Perot voter I knew felt the same way. The whiners that say Perot “stole” votes from daddy Bush are not only liars, they’re idiots. Clinton was just a weak daddy Bush, but at least he liked girls.
Perot warned about NAFTA, said “we will hear a sucking sound of our jobs being shipped out of America”
He was 100 percent right. I knew he was right, didn’t you?
Perot later said I told you so. Its not too late to get some of the jobs back.
New energy tech, improved ways of finding oil and gas, could lower energy costs enough to give the USA a second chance.
Also, robotics will level the wage issue vs. foreign help.
Not transporting goods across the world would favor local manufacture too.
Fact is our military depends on foreign made essential parts
that is dangerous.
do you have any empirical data to back that up??
Please don’t be a “Never Trump”-er, who says things to protect that family. Bush Sr. was a goner in 1992, and if not for the myth, woulda been a goner in 2000.
Of course Perot attracted anti-Clinton voters.
Leftists, democrats and other likely Clinton voters certainly didn’t abandon Clinton to vote for Perot.
You betcha. It’s insane that virtually everything in whatever store I go to has been shipped here from some other country. Material goods, even freaking drywall, are all from china, and good luck finding fruit that isn’t from South America. Giving China “Most Favored Nation” trade status FOREVER was daddy Bush’s legacy. His buddy Clinton signed it right after taking office, but it was daddy Bush’s efforts and dream that made it happen in congress. There’s a reason he and Clinton are buddies.
“But then Perot got really weird - he dropped out of the race, declaring that he had saved the Democrat Party from destruction...only to reenter a few weeks later. What a nut case!”
Recall John McCain did the same thing in 2008 during the financial crisis. He suspended his campaign to go to Washington as though he was a real power broker. Instead he only helped the media demonstrated he was a complete fool while Obama looked presidential. It didn’t help that President George W. Bush went AWOL, turning the management of the financial crisis over to his Secretary of the Treasury, former Goldman Sachs CEO Henry Paulson, as well as Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner. The Wall Street threesome promptly bailed out the big banks and stuck the taxpayer with the bill and a deep recession. I will never forget the financial crisis was triggered by a run on money market funds, likely from abroad.
The Bush administration covered for the foreign governments or speculators who precipitated the direct attack on the US financial system in 2008. It was clear then the Bush family loyalties are to social class (the upper 1%) and globalism, not to the United States of America.
I didn’t save a stack of affidavits from every Perot voter, just the empirical data of watching Perot’s campaign at the time and hearing what many pro-Perot voters had to say. Perot wasn’t a wildly successful IBM salesman for nothing — he deployed “sales” psychology brilliantly in those 30 minutes TV spots, using simple flip charts to lead inexorably to the answers he wanted each listener to form in their own mind. People believed he really could “make America great again”. Many Trump supporters are the exact same sort who supported Perot: decent, hard-working people, who see things as going down the tubes, but retain hope that problems can still be fixed, if only someone effective was at the helm. Trump lacks Perot’s discipline, but he throws out solutions and people want to believe.
Pre-election polls from 1992 would be interesting, but it was my observation THEN — not a myth dreamed up later — that polling showed Clinton to be topped out in the 40%’s. If he was the ONLY candidate, that’s all he was going to get. Perot’s senior citizen brigades were not going to vote for the didn’t inhale womanizing hippie hick draft-dodging slickie boy under any circumstances. GHW Bush did come across as exhausted, with no burning drive to win. That could have been the result of a 12 year run in office, or factors beyond my ken, but it mattered.
I don’t “say things” to protect the Bush dynasty or anyone else — thanks for the implication that I am some sort of lying tool. I’m “Never Hillary”, and would crawl through molten glass to vote for Trump over that criminal. But I have a lot of reservations about Trump, another salesman likely to disappoint conservatives (his recent gun control sellout is a perfect example of what I expect from him). The thing most likely to put Hillary in office is a 3rd party siphoning off conservative votes n a few swing states. She remembers 1992 and 1996. I only hope Bugs Bernie does too.
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