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Payday Loans Can Be A Lifeline For The Poor -- Meddling Bureaucrats Would Yank It Away
Forbes ^ | June 17, 2016 | George Leef

Posted on 06/17/2016 7:48:07 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: gunnut
The CFPB is a terrible government agency. They are “self funding” meaning they use extortion to get lenders to settle on fines for perceived violations to fund their salaries. It is amazing how many “violations” they find to keep themselves in business.

I have received two, perhaps three, small payments from companies in recent months with a note saying it is the result of settlement with the CFPB. They do not fill me with joy, because I understand business. It means prices will be raised to compensate for it or businesses may disappear completely. The agency is nothing more than a government extortion machine aimed at the private sector.
41 posted on 06/17/2016 8:50:52 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Bob

People respond to this emotionally.

Paying 15% on a three day loan because you need the money now is not usury (unless you are a muslim, but they often just play games to get around the “interest” side of it)

If someone lie Thomas Sowell understands the need for a payday loan, I think his viewpoint is a lot more valid than the viewpoints of people who scream about how unfair they are.


42 posted on 06/17/2016 8:55:51 AM PDT by rlmorel (Embrace your Curmudgeonliness.)
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To: reaganaut1

I fix the refrigerator myself.


43 posted on 06/17/2016 8:56:17 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: reaganaut1
Major reason poor people are poor is a need for immediate gratification... In the short term payday lenders make things ‘easy’ - - in the long term they destroy lives. (And NO, most of this stuff is NOT medical emergencies or some other ‘nice’ sounding excuse.)
44 posted on 06/17/2016 8:56:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (When a Muslim terrorist shoots up a gay bar, itÂ’s not gun violence.ItÂ’s Islamic terrorism.Greenfie)
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To: reaganaut1

In my experience, most payday loans go for things that an be delayed or skipped. It’s more of an instant gratification thing. People come to the church all the time wanting money to get out from under a payday loan.
My favorite reason is always “I don’t know why I did it”.


45 posted on 06/17/2016 8:58:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I think you’re wrong. I have on occasion used them and they saved me a lot of heartache and grief. I realize that some people lose their propert when they can’t repay the loan. But for many, they are the only place which would help.


46 posted on 06/17/2016 9:00:11 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes.


47 posted on 06/17/2016 9:01:16 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: River_Wrangler

You are absolutely right. I have a friend who borrowed $600 on a title loan and it took 8 months before he’d paid off 39 cents worth or principle. All of the payments were interest.

But, it’s a good thing, because it cured him of ever doing that again.

The interest is compounded on top of compounded.


48 posted on 06/17/2016 9:02:14 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I used them one summer. Pledged my car. In 30 days, I paid the interest and some more. The balance rolled over. It took about 6 months, but I became free that way. I don’t think I did anything immoral and I received help I needed without bothering a family member or friend.


49 posted on 06/17/2016 9:05:46 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Night Hides Not
If you pay it off within 3 days, there's no charge.

People who have the resources to pay it off in three days don't need a payday loan to begin with.

50 posted on 06/17/2016 9:06:49 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

She needed 100 dollars, but balked when they demanded a check for 145 dollars before they would give her the 100 dollars.

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I’m pretty sure that it is illegal for anyone to write a post dated check and illegal for anyone to demand one. Since it’s a state law, I suppose it depends on the state.


51 posted on 06/17/2016 9:17:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Crooked Hillary's going down and I aint talkin about, on Huma.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If you need a short-term loan, overdraft your account, if you have an overdraft line.

You’re using the bank’s money to pay a debt but it beats a payday loan.


52 posted on 06/17/2016 9:21:02 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Lower Deck
I don't care about Canada. You're wrong about Missouri.
The one regulation in the State of Missouri that differs from other states is that there are limits on the interest rates that you pay. The total APR that you can charge in the State of Missouri is 75%, including all interest, fees, and other costs associated with the loan. This differs from many other states where there are no rules that limit the amount of interest that can be charged.
Source: Missouri payday loan interest rate
53 posted on 06/17/2016 9:23:53 AM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: Graybeard58

No, its not. I’ve written a post-dated check and it helped me settle a debt for which I didn’t have funds on hands at the time.

Kept the check from bouncing.


54 posted on 06/17/2016 9:24:48 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: reaganaut1

The democrats want the racket to themselves. They will close them down then ride in to town with government backed and approved payday loans. When vote time comes around... Loan forgiveness.


55 posted on 06/17/2016 9:30:36 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: reaganaut1

This is BS. Payday loans cost more than the old Mafia loans.

Its legal financial rape.


56 posted on 06/17/2016 9:37:53 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: GreenHornet

Ive used payday loans.Im on fixed income and fell behind on my electric bill.Electric company gave me 2 hours to pay the bill or turn it off.This was winter,no electric=no heat.Even with a good reputation at my bank they couldnt help me that fast but the local payday lender helped me in 15 minutes.


57 posted on 06/17/2016 9:44:48 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: gunnut

That’s why I said banks should. They had no problem making sub-prime mortgage loans. Surely they could make small loans as low rates. The title and payday loans are just legal loansharking.


58 posted on 06/17/2016 9:45:17 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
I have some experience with this industry. From the outside, it seems like a cruel exploitation of the poor.

Reason for the higher rates is that the rate of default is much higher than more traditional loans. So these "payday loans" outfits are taking a much higher risk than traditional banks that are more discriminating about who they loan money to. Because the more traditional banks are more discriminating, they have less defaults and so can charge lower rates.

The real life lesson in all of this is that there are consequences for defaulting on your debts and ruining your credit.

I'm reading a biography on Harry Truman right now and he had partnered with somebody in 1919 on a men's clothing store. When the store failed, he had the option to declare bankruptcy. But instead, he worked out payment plans with his creditors and was still making those payments 20 years later, when he easily could have walked away in a bankruptcy filing. I believe he shouldered some of his partner's debt as well.

The benefit to Harry Truman was that his credit was always good and never had to borrow money on onerous terms.

59 posted on 06/17/2016 9:57:07 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (1,542); Cruz (559); Rubio (165); Kasich (161)
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To: reaganaut1

What ever happened to pawn shops? You need cash, you take something of value in to pawn, get some cash, and you get a month or whatever to pay back the money, and some interest (something like 25-30%). If you don’t pay it back and retrieve your property, they sell it. No ongoing accumulation of compound interest. I did it when I was younger, and always got my property back, too.


60 posted on 06/17/2016 10:03:32 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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