Posted on 06/17/2016 6:48:45 AM PDT by Lorianne
After seeing this, I am really wondering how many were shot by the cops vs the jehidi
If there were 4 Leos in the building trading fire, why did they not get the ‘300’ patrons out?
Should have just dropped a JDAM on the place.
Next, please.........
Militarized training not necessary. What they need is more time on the shooting range and training on "live-action" video (where it's like a video game & they "shoot" with pretend guns at a large screen of "actors" posing in various situations of when & when NOT to fire (as well as more accurately). Those cops in Orlando reminded me of those in NYPD cops, since they can't hit the broadside of a barn, they ineffectively spray bullets at anything & everything.
ISIL....but only if you are one of them.
I wasn't there so I don't know, but maybe they were pretty busy trying to discourage, stop, or kill a perp who was shooting at the public and then at them with a large capacity semi-automatic weapon.
Just sayin'
Supposed great marksman, but didn’t Omar buy the long gun just days before the attack? Do we have proof about his gun practice? Not a gun person, but don’t understand how one gunman buys a gun and days later is able to accomplish what he did. Really interested to find out the bullet count. Some were reported to have been shot 12 times. That is a lot of ammo.
I’m not buying the marksman crap. His shots were all “across the room” distance, no skills needed other than pulling a trigger.
If Mateen was "in a bathroom" talking to hostage negotiators then he obviously wasn't out in the main part of the club, nor did he have a line of sight to the main entrance. So there was nothing to prevent police from entering the front door and rescuing the wounded in the front part of the club. Once you have multiple people shot there isn't much point in negotiating with the killer for more than a few minutes.
And there was nothing to prevent them from closing on him from the inside of the club, or setting up an ambush for him outside the bathroom.
And there was nothing preventing them from storming the bathroom.
At this point I think we are hearing a lot of spin by the Orlando police to explain their gross errors.
The gun shop that sold him the firearms also gave some free range time with a purchase. Another shop patron on the range said Mateen was just firing as fast as he could, that he actually hit some wire or support and damaged the target holder.
As you point out, this makes the attempted comparison by the MSM of this murdering POS to the 99.999% of us gun owners who strive for tight shot groups and murdered no one last week even more absurd.
What difference does it make to you that a “detailed accounting” of police bullets make to you? So that you can have an addition to add to your “I hate cops” list?
You’re not interested in that? Blind acceptance? I don’t hate cops. But what I read doesn’t tell me that I should blindly accept the police version. It was at least 3-4 hours. Then they blow a hole, people spill out and bullets flew. You’re not interested in that?
Chuck a few CS grenades inside.
Patrons & the shooter would have made their own openings in the building.
(BTW) be prepared to make more openings & ventilate soon after - CS in a confined space will kill you - drown in your won mucus.)
It does make a difference if, say, the perp shot 8 victims, and the cops shot the rest.
Remember the story several years ago where NYNY cops shot 10 bystanders, and not one hit on the fellow they were worried about?
Early on in one of the earliest news reports, they played a video of of a girl recording the melee on her phone (she later died). In the background sound there was rapid gunfire (I haven’t heard at a gun range). I thought, “Huh, he must have gotten a FULLY automatic from his underground buds”. NOW, looking back, that must have been auto firing from the responding officers I was hearing. That explains a lot. I’d love to have the recovered ammo tested to see which ones actually came from Mateen the Swine. From process of elimination, we’d know how many patrons were actually hit from the spray of “friendly fire”.
NatCs = Sharia Police.
And he still managed to kill 49? Something ain’t right.
Sounds like the news may have been right, many were killed by bullets from an AR-15. But the only AR15s on scene were carried by the cops.
It was NOT an AR15.
He called dispatchers twice and hung up before they called him back, the source said.
He hung up before they called him back? I would think so.
A 3’ by 2’ hole. I don’t see a lot of people getting through that small of a hole.
Cops killed some at Twin Peaks. I’d like to compare the number of rounds fired in Waco compared to the number fired in Orlando.
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