many videos have been released to news media. There is very rapid gun fire heard.
I am no gun expert, but I do recall that sportsman models have limiters to full auto fire.
If that is so, then what we are hearing is 1)an illegally modified rifle and/or 2)SWAT firing back.
Your thoughts??
I’ve heard that. He’s pulling the trigger very fast. It was a target-rich environment.
This is a pretty girl firing an M-16 full-auto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztfXxgXqHGM
They are not “limiters”.
It is called and Auto-Sear. None of the civilian models have such a device installed, nor are they capable of having one installed without a competent gunsmith machine out the floor of the lower receiver and a couple of holes drilled in very specific places. Also you need the specific fire control group, the disconnector, and the bolt carrier modified to set the timing properly.
You are hearing multiple shooters.
‘limiters’ to full auto fire? Ya lost me ‘rok
There is no way he is going to have an illegally modified rifle since such modification requires special machining and gunsmithing expertise.
With that being said, using logic and ruling out the most outrageous possibility, the only answer is that any extra gunfire was via SWAT.......
And for what it's worth, in a situation like that, full auto by SWAT themselves and the collateral damage that would have resulted would not have been an option......
As a post script, I don't think any swat teams are even armed with full auto weapons..........but I might be wrong.
Suppose an M16 with fully automatic mode was used. It will fire off at a rate of about 800 rounds a minute...but that hardly means it will fire for a full minute that way. In 2.25 seconds of holding the trigger it will empty a 30 round magazine.. The reload time will vary with the skill of the shooter, but it is long enough to be tackled by somebody who is in the right place and right time who has their wits about them.
Modern M16s have a three round burst mode that was added for the very reason that fully automatic used up the magazine too fast. In this mode one squeeze of the trigger fires three bullets. Its a compromise to increase the chances of hitting and stopping targets a soldier aims at, and not requiring the solider to change their magazine too often.
The only guns the gun banners would probably allow law abiding citizen to own and carry are water pistols, and that is not even certain.
“”If that is so, then what we are hearing is 1)an illegally modified rifle and/or 2)SWAT firing back. Your thoughts??””
I’ve wondered the same thing when the film is played over and over. That’s an awful lot of noise and no one has bothered to explain that perhaps it was OUTSIDE coming from SWAT or from INSIDE from the attacker. Seems odd to be so loud if it was from the inside and yet they said SWAT didn’t engage for 3 hours or so. If it was from outside as some said he was shooting outside before going in, no one was there to take him out then? I haven’t wanted to stay glued to the coverage for hours at a time but I guess I’m missing something by not watching it hour after hour??