Oh, The Orlando Killer Didn't Use An AR-15 Rifle...

Townhall.com ^ | June 14, 2016 | Matt Vespa

[vooch]

he attended a FLA police academy in 2006

[tumblindice]

Hitlery thinks she’s going to repeat her beard’s 1994 gun ban.
I find it incredible that `rats and RATs are actually trying to use their failed immigration policies to justify infringing on the 2nd amendment.
Not gonna happen again. Like the `86 amnesty, that was a mistake that won’t be repeated if we have anything to say about it. And that’s a line in the sand.
Anyone claiming to be a conservative and grumbling about Trump, stating or suggesting they may go to Hitlery, is a stinking fraud.

[Shanghai Dan]

I may or may not have a Remington 700 bolt action rifle that fires the exactly same ammunition, but only holds five rounds and must manually eject an expended cartridge and load a new round by manipulation of the bolt. The effect on the human body when hit is identical. Those clueless politicians and similarly low information media types would call what I may or may not have a “deer rifle” while the other would be called an “assault rifle”. I would not recommend the Remington 700 in .223 caliber for deer hunting and I would never recommend civilian AR-15 type rifles for use in military combat assaults. The differences are essentially cosmetic.

My favorite comparison:

Both are 5.56mm caliber items. Both use the same magazines (PMAGs, steel, etc). Both have the same operation mode (semi-automatic). Both have 16" barrels and the same lethality.

One is evil; the other is perfectly acceptable (looks like a deer rifle).

[Texas resident]

That makes this more interesting. The MUSLIM maniac murderer used an European made weapon and American weapons manufacturers are to blame? Libtards have no bounds.

Timothy McVeigh was tried, convicted and executed in less time than this fruit of islam will be given for his first trial. See Major Nidal Hassan. Obama will protect him.

Priorities.

[Texas resident]

I prefer the Springfield 1903. 30-06 round. Good for long distance shots and it delivers a hell of a punch. WW1 assault weapon. The USMC was able to deliver shots out to 1,000 yards with this weapon in France on the Germans. They never knew what hit them. And it isn’t a scary looking black rifle that makes libtards make Obama’s in their pants.

[centurion316]

Great comparison. What are those rifles called?

[bgill]

Ok, so we’ve established it wasn’t a pop tart.

[AndyTheBear]

My thoughts is that its unlikely that having a fully automatic weapon vs a semi automatic makes that much difference in how many unarmed victims a mass shooter can kill.

Suppose an M16 with fully automatic mode was used. It will fire off at a rate of about 800 rounds a minute...but that hardly means it will fire for a full minute that way. In 2.25 seconds of holding the trigger it will empty a 30 round magazine.. The reload time will vary with the skill of the shooter, but it is long enough to be tackled by somebody who is in the right place and right time who has their wits about them.

Modern M16s have a three round burst mode that was added for the very reason that fully automatic used up the magazine too fast. In this mode one squeeze of the trigger fires three bullets. Its a compromise to increase the chances of hitting and stopping targets a soldier aims at, and not requiring the solider to change their magazine too often.

[Kaslin]

The only guns the gun banners would probably allow law abiding citizen to own and carry are water pistols, and that is not even certain.

[Shanghai Dan]

The upper is a well-farkled (optioned) AR15. The lower is the Kel Tec SU-16CA. I had an SU-16CA, it used PMAGs, USGIs, pretty much any M16/AR15/STANAG magazine you could find. The front “stock” folds out and becomes a bipod. The rear stock holds two more 10 round magazines. And the whole thing folds in half right behind the trigger assembly (folding disables operation).

Lightweight, accurate, reliable, and not scary at all. But operationally and effectively it was an AR15 in all but name only.

And it’s not an Evil Black Rifle... :)

[Brooklyn Attitude]

Looks like an AR, functions like an AR (piston type), uses the same ammo and mags as an AR. A distinction without a difference?

[Thank You Rush]

“”If that is so, then what we are hearing is 1)an illegally modified rifle and/or 2)SWAT firing back. Your thoughts??””

I’ve wondered the same thing when the film is played over and over. That’s an awful lot of noise and no one has bothered to explain that perhaps it was OUTSIDE coming from SWAT or from INSIDE from the attacker. Seems odd to be so loud if it was from the inside and yet they said SWAT didn’t engage for 3 hours or so. If it was from outside as some said he was shooting outside before going in, no one was there to take him out then? I haven’t wanted to stay glued to the coverage for hours at a time but I guess I’m missing something by not watching it hour after hour??

[houeto]

It is not clear to me. How do you chamber a round on that rifle?

[b4its2late]

Asshats in congress.

[TheOldLady]

Wow... I’m actually sporting a woody...

Too much information.

Also, I have a PS-90, and it's nothing like an AR-15.