Posted on 06/13/2016 8:53:08 AM PDT by Lockbox
As I hoped would happen, American Thinker’s series on TWA Flight 800 has prompted individuals with first hand knowledge to come forward. “Mark Johnson” is one. An air traffic controller (ATC), he worked the night of July 17, 1996 -- the night TWA Flight 800 was destroyed -- at the New York Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON) located in Westbury, New York.
Johnson has provided me with his real name, and I have confirmed that he was in a position to know what he says he knows. He requested that I use an alias because he has children who depend on him. The federal government, he believes, “will seek revenge, retribution and/or any other remedy they feel like. I would be fearful my pension would be at risk.” I have heard this sentiment voiced by many people involved in this incident.
Although Johnson was not responsible for tracking TWA Flight 800, he spoke directly with the ATC who did. In fact, he asked him “plenty of questions to prepare myself for the ‘suits’ who were beginning to arrive.” Along with several other ATCs, he viewed the radar tape of the incident. According to Johnson, “A primary radar return (ASR-9) indicated vertical movement intersecting TWA 800.”
An advanced radar system, the Northrop Grumman ASR-9 is able to detect a “target” in severe clutter even when the target has no transponder. The absence of a transponder is what distinguishes a “primary radar return” from a “secondary” one. In others words, the radar picked up a small, unidentified, ascending object intersecting TWA 800 in the second before the 747 “disappeared from radar.”
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No. Many Americans admire the corrupt ones for their ability to cover up. They equat it with our ability to defend ourselves They are moral relativists with excuses for lives. They cannot discern that corrupt people are bad. Tgat they will turn against America. Already have
The New York Times could show a photo of Hillary on a fishing boat manning a weapon shooting down...
Well, you know the drill
Not only is it possible, it has happened. I have a second-hand account of a similar incident by someone who a) was absolutely in a position to know, and b) I have utmost respect for and confidence in. See post #34.
The CIA does not investigate airline crashes, and everyone I know who has an ounce of flying experience has described the animated video of the incident produced by the FBI/NTSB/CIA as a comical joke that defies basic laws of physics.
I am not qualified to explain it. I watched a documentary on amazon video from 2013. TWA: Flight 800. The participants, including investigators with a long history of being involved with investigating crashes, went over the radar findings.
I would recommend watching it.
The radar track shows the dispersion of fragments, from which the energy of the explosion can be inferred.
A recording of the radar track was posted on YouTube for a short time. It very clearly showed a high-speed object colliding with TWA-800. It very clearly showed the breakup of the aircraft.
The video was soon taken down. The posters were arrested and threatened with Federal prosecution. They went silent after that.
Recovered wreckage shows burns and residue in the first-class cabin which are only consistent with rocket engine blast.
Reconstruction of the wreckage (yes they pieced almost all of it back together) shows a distinctive puncture on the right bottom of the fuselage, just at the mid-point between wing and cabin.
The damage is consistent with a radar-guided missile impact with failure of the warhead to detonate, or a late detonation, after the missile passed through the fuselage.
I remember seeing a thread on FR many years ago where somebody posted evidence that supported the possibility that TWA 800 could have been shot down by a land based AA missile (not shoulder fired but vehicle portable) - and that it was a terrorist attack, not a naval misfire.
If I get a chance I will do a keyword search on TWA800. No time this week though.
I seem to recall reports of equipment found on the nearby shore that appeared to be a (perhaps improvised) missile launching system. I'd have to go back and look to see if my memory was correct.
Seems like I remember from the initial discussions here that there was a military training exercise going on in the New England area and could it be related.
We are supposed to believe our government. They would never lead us astray.
How much for the bridge?
1. Flight 800 was flying lower than usual through the area that night. It had been ordered to reduce its altitude to make way for a northbound flight into Providence, Rhode Island that was running behind schedule. A terrorist would not possibly have known this advance, when selecting a location to shoot it down.
2. The U.S. government, after months (if not years) of stalling and prevaricating about it, finally admitted that there were naval assets deployed in the area south of Long Island that night to conduct military exercises. The lack of any obvious reaction from these ships (I believe there is documented evidence that they all vacated the area that very night) would run counter to any reasonable reaction to a nearby terrorist attack using a surface-to-air missile -- in other words, the proverbial "dog that didn't bark" scenario.
How so?
If was launched from a naval vessel, the ship’s crew would all have knowledge of the event. I’m sure they could have all been sworn to secrecy. Over time you would think something would leak.
“TWA Flight 800 was shot down by a U.S. Navy guided missile ship which was in area W-105. It has been a cover-up from the word go.”Here, Occam's Razor gives US a smooth, close shave.
Whoever posted this scenario speculated that the drone simply got too close to Flight 800 (which was flying lower than normal, as I described in a previous post above).
Or how an ASR-9 can determine a vertical velocity without a height finding component? A primary target won’t show an altitude.
While the FBI would not talk to witnesses, I met a crewman off a scallop dragger in a bar. The FBI chartered his boat to drag the bay and confiscate all of the items found. Was that normal procedure for a search for crash debris.
My thought was that would have been required to ensure no missile debris ended up outside of government hands.
Clinton never made any appearance that night, and I can only speculate that they were working feverishly to come up with a better explanation than the truth about what happened.
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