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9th Court of Appeals - "No constitutional right to concealed carry"
NBC ^ | June 9,2016

Posted on 06/09/2016 11:02:03 AM PDT by CedarDave

Edited on 06/09/2016 11:42:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Bishop_Malachi

made a similar comment earlier. You go so insane by their crazy rulings you start to laugh like you’re in a psych ward!!


41 posted on 06/09/2016 12:11:18 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: CedarDave
"...requires gun owners to show a good reason before they can get a license to carry a concealed handgun..."

Here's several:

• Because I don't want to panic the lilly-livered liberals and have to waste time talking with the police - or worse - because somebody doesn't believe as I do
• Because if I am stopped for a traffic violation, I don't want to increase my chances of death-by-cop by 100X
• Because it is often much more convenient to not show the weapon
• Because I don't wish to escalate the tension of any situation unless necessary
• Because I don't want somebody trying to take my gun away from me in a crowd
• Because there are bad people in the world and I need to protect myself since I cannot count on anyone else to be there when I am in need
• Because I want to and because the 9th/10th amendments should also still apply
• Because I don't want you leftists then taking the next step by prohibiting open carry when all of the unarmed people panic

..and because the Constitution includes the phrase "shall not (imperative form!) be infringed".

42 posted on 06/09/2016 12:12:08 PM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: CedarDave
So what else is new? Another unconstitutional ruling by a federal court that is unconstitutionally applied. A double dipper.

It's up to the states to reject and nullify unconstitutional acts and decisions of the feds which are by definition tyranny.

Of course also lost on all of the is that the scope of the decision in the particular case presented to the Ninth Circuit applies ONLY to the parties involved. (Precedent also may be applied to another case that exactly matches the facts and legal questions.) This is another HUGE perversion of the power of the court is to allow judicial authority to go beyond the INDIVIDUAL CASE or CONTROVERSY.

43 posted on 06/09/2016 12:13:22 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: CedarDave
“The protection of the Second Amendment— whatever the scope of that protection may be— simply does not extend to the carrying of concealed firearms in public by members of the general public.”

What compelling logic: "because we say so".

Without any historical or legal basis, the excrete this opinion.

And William Kristol, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and their ilk are hesitant to endorse Donald Trump?

You're either with Trump, or you're with the traitorous Enemies of America...

Vote Trump!

44 posted on 06/09/2016 12:14:41 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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To: CedarDave

According to this court you can have firearm as long as it is kept locked up in a gun safe.


45 posted on 06/09/2016 12:15:49 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: WENDLE
They have been over turned more that a Saint Bernard’s water bowl.

Sure they have, but the landscape has been changed: a 4-4 tie at SCOTUS would now effectively amend the Constitution by fiat, allowing their ruling to stand and impose California law nationwide.

That's exactly why this decision has come down now - at this particular time.

46 posted on 06/09/2016 12:15:58 PM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: CedarDave

The 9th CIRCUS strikes again. We’re they the ones that said the CA citizens had no right to insist marriage was between one man and one woman? AND then went on to say the same ban on the people’s will applied to Idaho and Nevada.


47 posted on 06/09/2016 12:16:04 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: CedarDave

So they are openly saying that they believe that high-profile people’s private security has rights that citizens do not? Really? In America.


48 posted on 06/09/2016 12:17:33 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: CedarDave

“The protection of the Second Amendment — whatever the scope of that protection may be — simply does not extend to the carrying of concealed firearms in public by members of the general public.”

We don’t know what the scope of the 2nd amendment is but we know for certain it does not permit concealed carry of a handgun.

Nice pretzel logic.


49 posted on 06/09/2016 12:18:08 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: WENDLE
It seems from what (little) I've read of their decision that they did not opine on an individual State's right to grant such carry within it's own borders. I have a "Concealed Carry" license from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I will proceed with the understanding that it is still valid and enforceable.

50 posted on 06/09/2016 12:18:50 PM PDT by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: CedarDave

Anyone still think it is a good idea to sot this one out because you don’t like Trump?


51 posted on 06/09/2016 12:20:01 PM PDT by matt04
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To: CedarDave
The Ninth Circus had ruled that the Second Amendment protected only a "collective right" and is hoping that the Wicked Witch is elected so SCOTUS will rule that way. This decision is meant to give a Liberal SCOTUS a chance to overrule Heller and McDonald.
52 posted on 06/09/2016 12:20:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: CedarDave
The 9th "Circus" strikes again... Sigh. What part of "keep and BEAR do they not grasp? OH - probably the PLAIN LANGUAGE part... #imbeciles
53 posted on 06/09/2016 12:26:18 PM PDT by TheBattman (A member over 15 years, yet my posts are "submitted for review")
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To: Veracious Poet

There is only one way to disarm me and if they are successful, I will have no regrets. Of course, I also won’t be home for dinner.


54 posted on 06/09/2016 12:28:10 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Vote Trump 2016~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
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To: CedarDave

They might as well say they don’t believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.


55 posted on 06/09/2016 12:29:26 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm actually going back to school. I kinda don't believe it.)
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To: matt04

Quote:

“Anyone still think it is a good idea to sot this one out because you don’t like Trump?”

The GOPe does.


56 posted on 06/09/2016 12:30:58 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: CedarDave
Setting up the challenge at SCOTUS to the 2nd Amendment once Hildebeast is crowned as a sovereign on Jan 20, 2017.

TRUST ME - with the DBMSM and the black man in the rainbow hut supporting her thighness, the Donald doesn't stand a chance. The population of America is too stupid and inattentive to listen to the real facts of how Trump "slandered a Mexican Judge".

All the idol worshipers will vote for the vagina candidate without knowing a thing about her past crimes, just like they put the 1/6 Arab Muslim into the Rainbow Hut after the media refused to dig up let alone cover his shady gay terrorist buddy past.

I am a big Trumpster but I just don't see it happening - GWB should have stopped some of this media bashing 10-13 years ago instead of taking the "HIGH ROAD" is how I believe Karl Rove referred to it as. NOW we have Trump who is not afraid to fight back on the libtard's turf and the GOPee goes after him for responding to a BIASED judge. Trump could have phrased it more artfully, but he is NOT a politician, NOT a lawyer, and definitely is NOT PC.


57 posted on 06/09/2016 12:31:07 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: CedarDave

F them, its not their document to F with, it’s the PEOPLES and the people’s document makes it quite clear IT SHALL NO BE INFRINGED. End of story!


58 posted on 06/09/2016 12:33:04 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)
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To: BarbM

To go sleeveless.


59 posted on 06/09/2016 12:46:39 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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To: CedarDave

If this ruling doesn’t get trump elected, nothing will.


60 posted on 06/09/2016 12:46:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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