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9th Court of Appeals - "No constitutional right to concealed carry"
NBC ^ | June 9,2016

Posted on 06/09/2016 11:02:03 AM PDT by CedarDave

Edited on 06/09/2016 11:42:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: WildHighlander57
IDAHO RULES!
81 posted on 06/09/2016 5:58:06 PM PDT by disndat
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To: Repeal 16-17

I think Idaho has always been open carry.

See post 81.


82 posted on 06/09/2016 6:04:16 PM PDT by disndat
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To: Cementjungle

He can pretend to govern.

We will pretend to let him. Or them.


83 posted on 06/09/2016 6:05:55 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Veracious Poet

I’m still shaking my head over this news...damn 9th Circus!


84 posted on 06/09/2016 6:10:14 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: alancarp

...but Alito’s death was natural.

In a pig’s eye.


85 posted on 06/09/2016 6:11:54 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: CedarDave
Serious question: if I just have purchased a handgun at my local gun store and it is now illegal to carry my newly purchased firearm in California either concealed or open carry, how in the HELL do I carry it to my car from the gun store to put it in my trunk????? If it is in a box or a bag, by definition it is concealed. If I take it out of the bag or box, I am illegally carrying it publicly in the open. They are both equally illegal in California. Seems I would be damned if I did, and damned if I did not. Do I back my car up to the door of the gun shop, open the trunk, and THROW the unopened gun, box and all, into the trunk from the safety of the gun shop? Or is the interior of the gun shop considered public?

Does the "licensed gun transporting service" have to carry it for me whenever I want to transport if from my car to any appropriate destination such as my home or a gun range?

Squirrelly Pretzel logic.

86 posted on 06/09/2016 6:44:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Magnum44

The Heller case stands for the proposition that the right to possess a handgun in your own home can be regulated, but that the regulations can;t be discretionary on the part of the government. No mention is made of cost or anything else. The courts are hostile to the RKBA, and will allow expensive regulation for mere possession, and I can see expensive regulation being extended to the right to carry. The courts will keep carving up various scenarios and keeping things in a state of confusion (that’s the point of law anyway, to keep the public confused), in the hopes that the public will eventually tire of the fight and give up.


87 posted on 06/09/2016 6:50:46 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: marktwain

Exactly. The author of the opinion, Willie Fletcher, deliberately wrote this opinion without mentioning the fact that open carry is illegal in the state, and (also ignoring the fact that) ruling “no CONCEALED carry” means no right “to ... bear arms” whatsoever. “Bear” is meaningless if you can’t take it out of your home, which is where you “keep” it.


88 posted on 06/09/2016 7:14:44 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Swordmaker

That’s a damned good question. Send that to the good guys’ law firm, and maybe they’ll put it in their brief. (It’s not the MAIN problem, which is rank unconstitutionality. It’s a good illustration of the absurdity, though, and shows that leftists really just want a disarmed herd of subjects.)


89 posted on 06/09/2016 7:16:20 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: combat_boots

You mean Scalia, but yeah, lots of people have some doubts about his dirt nap in an election year, even though he was a tub with heart problems.


90 posted on 06/09/2016 7:17:10 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: CedarDave

this is what November is all about.


91 posted on 06/09/2016 7:57:45 PM PDT by ErikJohnsky
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To: Swordmaker

Not to worry California is banning lead bullets too as of 2019.


92 posted on 06/09/2016 9:11:40 PM PDT by topfile
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To: Veracious Poet

Thanks for the ping.


93 posted on 06/09/2016 9:23:25 PM PDT by djstex (Trump : America First and Make America GREAT Again!)
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To: CedarDave

It’s here and we all need to get ready!
Vote TRUMP!


94 posted on 06/09/2016 9:25:07 PM PDT by djstex (Trump : America First and Make America GREAT Again!)
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To: Veracious Poet

Shoot fast

Shoot straight

Shoot safe

Practice

Carry

Glock rocks


95 posted on 06/10/2016 12:21:50 AM PDT by glock rocks (I'll be glad when the election is over, so FReepers can get back to discussing politics ...)
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To: Veracious Poet

Practice, practice, practice.

Carry = 3X14+1. HST.


96 posted on 06/10/2016 12:27:20 AM PDT by glock rocks (I'll be glad when the election is over, so FReepers can get back to discussing politics ...)
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To: pogo101

Mega oops. Yes, Scalia.


97 posted on 06/10/2016 3:17:42 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Veracious Poet

The push is on to disarm Americans. The dumbing down and stupefying of the American public has been so successful that I have grave concerns that this is going to work. Who is it that can’t see how artfully our enemies are executing their plans? It’s the media doped, hedonistic, intellectually challenged dolts that have been created by decades of slop fed to them daily by money mad advertisers and media pundits that will allow this to happen. I’m afraid that there are more of them than us who know that when we’re disarmed we are dead as a nation.

I wouldn’t be afraid to say that a huge number of Americans couldn’t even read what John Locke said in 1690 much less understand it. The same goes for the Constitution of the United States of America.

Our younger generations can name the ex-wives, children and stats on just about any Hollywood celebrity but can’t name the Vice President of the United States. Just whose army is going to fight for our rights and our liberty now? It’s about time to be figuring that out.


98 posted on 06/10/2016 5:33:08 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Elderberry
carry, bring, transport, move, convey, take, fetch, deliver, tote, lug Not Conceal.

And not "not conceal". I suppose all those people carrying derringers, back in the day, were violating the Constitution.

99 posted on 06/10/2016 5:43:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Trump: A Bull in a RINO closet.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
I never heard of this case before today, but I wonder if people aren’t over-reacting a bit. Did this plaintiff try to claim that CC should cross state lines as a national right? That CC law should be uniform everywhere? If so, then why have we been fighting for it state by state all this time?

Again, not having had a chance to review the case, it seems an attempt to nationalize an issue that should be left to the states. This is what the left does all the time and I complain about it vehemently.

Please correct me if you know more about this that I do because I’m confused by the reaction to it.

If the impact was limited to just California, that would be one thing. But as the maps above show, the court's jurisdiction is the western US. If a state, such as Washington or Oregon decides to restrict concealed carry, those affected would not have relief in the Federal court. Further, if another Federal court in another part of the country, rules that concealed carry is legal, the issue goes to the US Supreme Court for resolution. With Scalia's death, it is no longer friendly to the 2nd amendment. A couple of liberal appointments by Hillary would mean overturning of the individual right to carry a handgun nationwide. That's why this decision is so important - it opens the door wide for the anti-gun crowd.

100 posted on 06/10/2016 6:40:33 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's America - where the criminals are victims and the police are the criminals.)
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