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Nearly 50 percent recent college graduates working in jobs where no college degree is required.
My Budget 360 ^ | 28 May 2016

Posted on 05/30/2016 9:19:41 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: proxy_user

At nice restaurants you can make a very nice living if you are really good. Certainly nothing to be ashamed of.


61 posted on 05/30/2016 11:05:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
A motivated English major could probably have done almost as well, if he or she were willing to learn on the job.

Voice of experience and I agree completely. It also dovetails nicely with something I've believed for a long while: the degree is merely the piece of paper that keeps the door open. After that, it's the intangibles that some just can't manage to learn: showing up, engaging in the work, don't be a jerk, work effectively in a team setting, seize learning opportunities. These are sometimes called "soft skills" but I call them "employability skills". It's been my observation that these are skills missing among many in their 20s & 30s that allow unemployed people in their 50s and 60s to grab the jobs.

As a 61-year-old manufacturing consultant, I am asked to be a networking contact for lots of experienced job-seekers in my age group so I'm always encouraged by seeing this group succeed in gaining new employment. Most employers would probably like to go younger in getting new employees but have been burned so the door remains open for the senior set.

62 posted on 05/30/2016 11:08:44 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Fido969

Sure you can - for the government.


63 posted on 05/30/2016 11:08:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Starboard

When I attended college I was taught by American professors.
Today, many students complain that their teachers are foreign graduate students who speak poor English.


64 posted on 05/30/2016 11:13:01 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: riri

The kid next door might benefit from hearing from you exactly what you just wrote. he might take advice from someone other than his parents. If something doesn’t change to force him out of his stupor he will end up committing suicide. No one can live very long without purpose.


65 posted on 05/30/2016 11:27:03 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Brookhaven

They want to hire someone to solve a problem they have today, and when the problem is solved they let the person go.

Spot on.


66 posted on 05/30/2016 11:27:06 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Professional handgun training.)
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To: Redleg Duke

One of my daughters is at community college, and I wish we would have encouraged my son with that route.

My son had excellent grades and a high ACT and seemed responsible in high school.

My daughter had okay grades and a low SAT. She said she wasn’t ready for college.

He’s struggled with classes and she has a 4.0.

My other daughter is doing well too. She got a great scholarship and has a 4.0. She didn’t know what to major in so she took classes to help her figure that out and she went to the career center her first week of school. She’s had several jobs that she’s found herself.

My son is only 21, so he has time to grow up. His degree is in economics with a minor in business. We just can’t enable him any more. No more money!


67 posted on 05/30/2016 11:27:57 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Popman

That’s what they do in Europe.

When the libs say “they have free college in Europe” what they neglect to mention is that there are very high standards for entrance and once you are in you have to keep up academic standards or you are out ... so yes, free college to those who meet rigorous entrance exams and keep up academic standards. That’s not the same as “free college for everyone” that they are spouting about.

I would have no problem with the European model whatsoever. However, to the left that would not be ‘fair’.


68 posted on 05/30/2016 11:31:26 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: 353FMG

That’s the way it was in chemical engineering at Texas A&M back in the early 80s. The foreign teachers made a hard major even more difficult.

I switched my major to computer science and it was mostly taught by Americans. It was a much easier major.

Now, most of the CS professors are foreign.


69 posted on 05/30/2016 11:31:31 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Redleg Duke

I tell people that if they are really wanting to work, starting at Mickey D’s at the fry station is a start. Show initiative, work hard, show up early, KEEP THE PANTS PULLED UP, be polite and customer service oriented and that can be flipped into an assistant manager position.

Work hard at that following the same rules and flip it into a store manager.

Work hard at that and flip it into a multi-store district manager and so on.

I know people who have done it, and I know people who had the work ethic, but not the desire. She’s in her mid-40’s making $16 per hour. Smart, but unwilling to put in the work to advance.


70 posted on 05/30/2016 11:36:17 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Professional handgun training.)
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To: Starboard

The root problem is the federal grant and loan system.

Like most problems, this on was created by Uncle Sam.


71 posted on 05/30/2016 11:47:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dfwgator

Ethiopian Transgendered Studies.


72 posted on 05/30/2016 11:52:02 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

My first job, in 1978, was as a Drafter for Edwards Labs, making artificial heart valves. I had no Degree but had been to college, it was free in California. At that time Drafting was done with pencil, paper and eraser. Fast forward, I am now a CAD Engineer, reverse Engineering tools for the Semi-Conductor industry. We sell to Micron, Intel, RFMD,..I am 63, have a record, hehheh but am employed because of my skill set and my experience. I have been back to College many times in the past, mostly to be current on the latest Technology. I make more than I ever have, company pays for my phone, UNLIMITED PTO. Two jobs ago I worked on Lawrence Livermore Labs’ National Ignition Facility. Life is good.


73 posted on 05/30/2016 11:55:01 AM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998
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To: Lorianne

Instant Unemployment Degrees have been a problem since the 1970’s.

People with these IUD’s often have zero personal skills, zero job skills, and zero work experience in their 22+ years of life, required for a good paycheck.

The final nail in their unemployment coffin, often is a negative attitude and the world owes me a living attitude which comes across if they get a job interview.


74 posted on 05/30/2016 11:55:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.htmls)
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To: Lorianne
"And many of the others are jobs that don't require a college degree to perform, the employers just use it as a sorting mechanism (of dubious value IMO)."

It protects those making the hiring decisions. If a hire turns out to be a complete doofus -- as in, "How could I know he (she) was a complete moron? He (she) went to Harvard?"

The price tag on the college isn't the whole story. Many of the elite colleges offer generous financial aid (MIT has a $21,816 average annual net price according to College Scorecard). Like with everything, the asking price isn't the entire story.

At about the same cost as a new Honda Accord it's not a bad investment. (Cost of 2 years community college + 2 years State U in my state. There are always places for Juniors and Seniors because the dropout rate is so high)

At $250K in loans for a degree in a useless field that qualifies the graduate mainly to be a Starbucks barista -- it's not a very wise investment.

There is actually one useful thing that the Obama administration has done in 7 years. You can now look up how much graduates of schools earn after graduation. https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/

ie. the average Harvard grad makes $87,200 10 years after graduation. (I don't know how that compares with the average Trump U. graduate 10 years after graduation.)

75 posted on 05/30/2016 11:56:18 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: shelterguy

That’s so true. We’re renting our house to a couple of millennials. One just got a new job at an artisan chocolate/ice cream place. She said her boss never stops thanking her for showing up to work.


76 posted on 05/30/2016 11:59:22 AM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: Lorianne

I have a degree, but I don’t work in the field that my degree is in. By choice, and I am definitely NOT complaining. I absolutely love my career, and wouldn’t trade it for my original choice for anything.


77 posted on 05/30/2016 12:03:22 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither.)
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To: luckystarmom

I do not object to having foreign professors, but they all should be required to speak proper English. Our colleges have become monetary black holes. Our students do not get what they pay for in tuition.


78 posted on 05/30/2016 12:18:23 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: luckystarmom

I do not object to having foreign professors, but they all should be required to speak proper English. Our colleges have become monetary black holes. Our students do not get what they pay for in tuition.


79 posted on 05/30/2016 12:19:11 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: BenLurkin

Mostly LIBERAL Arts..
Yep, a dad I know went to his son’s graduation at MSU and wondered how all those non-salable degrees were going to be paid for.


80 posted on 05/30/2016 12:21:43 PM PDT by bog trotter
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