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Libertarians pick ticket, slam Trump
cnn.com ^ | Updated 7:21 PM ET, Sun May 29, 2016 | Eli Watkins, CNN

Posted on 05/29/2016 6:29:58 PM PDT by Trumpinator

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To: Byron_the_Aussie
That guy needs the "man-siere." -Frank Costanza

Kramer: "I've got a better name. "The Bro".

Mansiere!

The Bro!

41 posted on 05/29/2016 7:53:09 PM PDT by boop ("A Republic, if you can keep it."-Franklin, 1787. "We couldn't keep it"-America, 2016)
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To: Trumpinator

Libertarians are liberals who afraid to admit it. Gary Johnson is an attention-seeking doper.


42 posted on 05/29/2016 7:53:39 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

That is not me. I shaved my beard and do not have an Iron Cross tattoo.


43 posted on 05/29/2016 7:55:16 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Libertarianism is a 250 year old political fad, spawned by the French Enlightenment from their revolutionary slogan, Liberte’.
It has absolutely nothing to do w/Principled Conservatism, born in the Greece of Antiquity.


44 posted on 05/29/2016 8:02:49 PM PDT by Arrian (How predictab)
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To: Trumpinator

Gary Johnson wants to ban burkas. That doesn’t sound libertarian to me.


45 posted on 05/29/2016 8:02:52 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: Arrian

Libertarianism has nothing to do with French Revolutionary Enlightenment—that’s Progressivism.

Libertarianism is classical Liberalism in the same vein as John Locke, etc. But since Progressives stole the original meaning & intent of ‘Liberalism’, the word Libertarianism was born.


46 posted on 05/29/2016 8:10:53 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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To: jospehm20

Is Weld officially on the LPUSA ticket?


47 posted on 05/29/2016 8:21:11 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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To: sargon
Weld is former MA governor, correct?

As such, isn't he anti-gun?

48 posted on 05/29/2016 8:23:16 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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To: goldstategop

IOW...anarchists.


49 posted on 05/29/2016 8:24:01 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

ROFL


50 posted on 05/29/2016 8:24:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (MAGA! Make America Great Again)
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To: Trumpinator
Weld supported a semi-auto ban as governor of the state.

And the LPUSA has him running on their Presidential ticket?

What an absolute joke. A gun-controller and an open-borders fanboy who thinks that controlling illegal immigration is racist.

The LPUSA couldn't look more clownish.

Vote Trump!

51 posted on 05/29/2016 8:30:17 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Your assertions are complete malarkey and utter nonsense.
* Hume, Locke, Berkeley, among others, up to and including Say, de Maistre and Burke; were the definers of Classical Liberalism, which in essence was conservative.
* The French, home base for every crackpot religious and secular heresy since the 9th century, spawned the Libertarian fad, principally through the ideas of Voltaire and Rousseau.
* Progressivism came later, evolving from the concept of material progress, associated w/the Industrial revolution and whose principal advocates included Hegel and Marx.


52 posted on 05/29/2016 8:56:17 PM PDT by Arrian (How predictab)
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To: sargon

You and I both know this Libertarian ticket was funded by the establishment as an attempt to siphon votes from Republicans.


53 posted on 05/29/2016 8:58:25 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Trumpinator
You and I both know this Libertarian ticket was funded by the establishment as an attempt to siphon votes from Republicans.

It certainly looks like it. What a joke...

54 posted on 05/29/2016 9:11:57 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Real Libertarians are despising the Johnson/Weld ticket, and generally have nothing to do with the Libertarian Party.

The LP has little to do with serious libertarian thought. It is open to frauds and shysters. Serious libertarians aren't into politics and running the government.

Johnson and Weld are liberal Republicans.

55 posted on 05/29/2016 9:24:30 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: Arrian

Libertarianism as a political philosophy has largely revolved around individualism, natural rights, and property; not exactly the stuff of Voltaire/Rousseau. A decent writeup I just saw on the matter: http://reformedlibertarian.com/blog/things-that-dont-make-a-libertarian/

American Conservatism properly understood (particularly in the spirit of the ‘Old Right’) ends up being largely synonymous with this.

(Though idiots like Buckley later inflicted much damage on that foundation, managing to mutate ‘modern Conservatism’ into something more blindly sentimental and reactionary).

As for Progressivism, what it’s incorporated from Marx is only an expansion on what the French Revolution (child of Rousseau) already laid down.

Political Libertarianism does not hold that rights come from government (as Progressives do), but that rights are naturally inherent to the individual. Same as what the Constitution upholds.


56 posted on 05/29/2016 9:28:21 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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To: Forgotten Amendments

>>> The LP has little to do with serious libertarian thought. It is open to frauds and shysters. Serious libertarians aren’t into politics and running the government.

I’m aware. Likewise, I’ve never been involved with the LP.

>>> Johnson and Weld are liberal Republicans.

They’re basically Prog-lites, given their positions on free association, military interventionism, environmental regulation, gun control, border control, etc. They’re remarkably to the Neocon Left of Trump in all these matters.

I’m also lead to believe that Johnson/Weld are being backed by some donors (including the Kochs) solely for the purpose of attempting to dent Trump’s support. They conspicuously never attack Hillary, yet go into impassioned tirades against Trump.

I suspect this’ll backfire and end up drawing more disaffected Bernouts & other Dem-leaners, rather than Republicans.


57 posted on 05/29/2016 9:37:19 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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To: Trumpinator

Two full-term Governors!


58 posted on 05/29/2016 9:41:40 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors)
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To: Trumpinator

The LP convention picked their candidates, BEFORE the Jun 7th primaries.

Therefore California and New Jersey LP voters are ignored. It is already a done deal, per the party elites.

Johnson favors

—Same sex marriage
—legalize many drugs
—reduce military 43%
—abortions on demand
—open borders

Two former GOP governors, picked by elites, not primary voters from the nation’s largest state


59 posted on 05/29/2016 9:46:29 PM PDT by truth_seeker (#NeverHillary#NeeverBernie)
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To: sargon

I read that Johnson announced him as VP before the convention.


60 posted on 05/29/2016 10:06:57 PM PDT by jospehm20
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