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Sanders: Democratic convention could be 'messy'
Associated Press ^ | May 23, 2016 | Ken Thomas

Posted on 05/23/2016 4:51:43 PM PDT by monkapotamus

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Bernie Sanders predicted Monday that the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia could be "messy" as he pushed the party to adopt his progressive agenda, but added: "Democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle..."

Asked if the convention could be messy, Sanders said, "So what! Democracy is messy. Everyday my life is messy. But if you want everything to be quiet and orderly and allow, you know, just things to proceed without vigorous debate, that is not what democracy is about."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Pennsylvania; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2016dncconvention; 2016election; bernie; berniesanders; california; election2016; feelthebern; losangeles; pennsylvania; philadelphia; sanders; vermont
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1 posted on 05/23/2016 4:51:43 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

Do what you have to do, Bern.

My popcorn will be at the ready.


2 posted on 05/23/2016 4:56:21 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: monkapotamus

BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE!


3 posted on 05/23/2016 4:57:54 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: VanDeKoik

I actually kinda like Bernie. Except that he is a zero accomplishment, septuagenarian communist tool of course.


4 posted on 05/23/2016 4:59:41 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: monkapotamus

Pissed off Commies gonna do what they do best, riot..


5 posted on 05/23/2016 5:00:16 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: monkapotamus

Preparation Hillary trying to soothe the Bern.


6 posted on 05/23/2016 5:00:51 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: monkapotamus

How is he going to get the Party to release the superdelegates?

I just can’t see that happening.

And Hillary had every one of them on her hitman’s speed dial - and they know it.

And that’s not a metaphor.

And they know it.


7 posted on 05/23/2016 5:06:17 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: monkapotamus

Fight ‘da man Bernie! (or woman in this case)


8 posted on 05/23/2016 5:09:28 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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To: Talisker

Hillary had the backing of the superdelegates in ‘08 also. Then a few announced their shift to Obama. Then a few more. Soon the trickle turned into a stampede.

The party doesn’t have to release them; the superdelegates are free to switch at any time.


9 posted on 05/23/2016 5:11:34 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: lafroste

Bernie has rotten teeth too. When he smiles, which is rare, he looks like an English socialist.


10 posted on 05/23/2016 5:13:31 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: lafroste

I think I figured out why so many young people are for Bernie. He’s like the generous grandpa who, when your dad says “Get a job. Move out of the house. Pay your bills” Grandpa Bernie says “Come to me for whatever you need, kid.” and starts putting $$ in your hand.


11 posted on 05/23/2016 5:15:38 PM PDT by Shugee
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp

You sure about that?


12 posted on 05/23/2016 5:18:51 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: monkapotamus

Trotskyists vs Leninists

May they both be successful in destroying the demonrat party.


13 posted on 05/23/2016 5:21:12 PM PDT by sagar
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Bern it down! Bern it all down! A magnificent new socialist future awaits to rise from the ashes!

Note to self: buy more ammo.

14 posted on 05/23/2016 5:21:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: lafroste

“Except that he is a zero accomplishment, septuagenarian communist tool of course.”

In other words, the perfect Rat candidate. The other septuagenarian communist tool has a vagina so that gives her the nomination.


15 posted on 05/23/2016 5:21:38 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (her name is no longer is Hillary. It's Hilarity. Try it on for size, it's fun to say)
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To: lafroste
I actually kinda like Bernie. Except that he is a zero accomplishment, septuagenarian communist tool of course.

His heart is in the right place; his brain is not.
16 posted on 05/23/2016 5:29:10 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: monkapotamus

If he forgets his Depends?


17 posted on 05/23/2016 5:50:55 PM PDT by cp124 (Trade, Immigration, Intervention)
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CAN YOU IMAGINE THE MEDIA HYPE IF TRUMP HAD SAID THIS BACK IN APRIL....

Asked if the convention could be messy, TRUMP said, "So what! Democracy is messy."

TRUMP says he would not re-appoint Rience Priebus as RNC Chair

18 posted on 05/23/2016 5:52:31 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: monkapotamus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Industrial_Workers_of_the_World#1924_split

Excerpt:
Seeds of another split[edit]

Foner identified a schism within the Chicago IWW in addition to the east/west divide, consisting of those who wanted a labor union with a revolutionary program, and those who merely wanted to be a revolutionary cadre leading the working class to revolution via propaganda and agitation.[54] Many other analysts, however, identified two contesting groups essentially according to what they called themselves — centralizers and decentralizers.

Centralizers[edit]

Of the centralizers, Hoxie observes,

The centralizers believe that the actual building up of the industrial organization will train and educate the workers in the conduct, not only of industry, but of all social affairs, so that when the organization has become universalized it can perform all the necessary functions of social control now exercised by the state in its legislative, executive and judicial capacities. This universal organization of the workers will then displace the state, government and politics in the present sense; private ownership, privilege and exploitation will be forever abolished. The one big union will have become the state, the government, the supreme organic and functional expression of society; its rules and decisions will be the law.[55]

Decentralizers[edit]

Hoxie explains the decentralizers,

The decentralizers look forward to what they call a free industrial society. Each local group of workers is to be a law to itself. They are to organize as they please. The present industrial and social arrangements are to be overthrown simply by making it unprofitable for the employing class to own and operate industries. Future society is to consist of independent groups of workers freely exchanging their products. The proper proportions of investments and production, the ratio of exchange of goods, etc., will automatically be determined, just as they are under competitive industry, only then the competition will be between groups of workers, instead of between individuals. Universal knowledge and a superior morality, which will spring up as soon as capitalist society is abolished, will take the place of our present complicated system of social control and do away with the necessity of government in the present sense.[56]

Beyond the described differences, Hoxie concludes, the theories, methods, and policies of the centralizers and the decentralizers were much the same.[57] But historian Philip S. Foner described the decentralizers as “the most vehement and noisiest of the anti-leadership element.” They wanted to remove all officers of the union, and replace them with a stenographer. They also sought to abolish the union’s General Executive Board and the annual convention. In 1913 a majority of delegates rejected the goals of the decentralizers, yet they continued their efforts for years afterward.[58]


19 posted on 05/23/2016 5:59:59 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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When I read quotes from him, I can only picture them coming out of Larry David, and I start laughing.


20 posted on 05/23/2016 6:08:05 PM PDT by babble-on
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