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Vietnam Arms Embargo to Be Fully Lifted, Obama Says in Hanoi
NY Times ^ | May 23, 2016 | GARDINER HARRIS

Posted on 05/23/2016 10:56:23 AM PDT by Innovative

HANOI, Vietnam — The United States is rescinding a decades-old ban on sales of lethal military equipment to Vietnam, President Obama announced at a news conference in Hanoi on Monday, ending one of the last legal vestiges of the Vietnam War.

“The decision to lift the ban was not based on China or any other considerations,” he said, with the Vietnamese president, Tran Dai Quang, standing stiffly by his side. “It was based on our desire to complete what has been a lengthy process of moving toward normalization with Vietnam.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; armstovietnam; bho44; bhoasia; obama; obamavietnam; obamavisit; vietnam
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To: Innovative

NORKS are next.


21 posted on 05/23/2016 11:14:11 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Ancient Man

“What’s the big deal? They only killed 55,000 of our boys”

And left John F Kerry horribly disfigured


22 posted on 05/23/2016 11:17:01 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: al baby; tx_eggman
Almost saved us from Al Gore, though:


23 posted on 05/23/2016 11:24:42 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: Innovative

Obama is hoping to replace the old Hanoi Jane on pinup calendars in Vietnam.


24 posted on 05/23/2016 11:26:10 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: Innovative

Good. The Vietnamese hate the Chinese with an abiding passion.


25 posted on 05/23/2016 11:30:34 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: r_barton

Commercial airplane is FAR different that weapons.


26 posted on 05/23/2016 11:30:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: mdmathis6

Yes, but it’s more fun to dramatize righteous indignation.


27 posted on 05/23/2016 11:32:21 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: Ancient Man

Actually, there were 58,220 U.S. military fatal casualties of the Vietnam War.


28 posted on 05/23/2016 11:32:57 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Vote Trump 2016~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
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To: Innovative

Surely, Obama is aware that he owes his Presidency to the Vietnamese Communists.

During the Vietnam War, the 1968 Tet Offensive resulted in the annihilation of Viet Cong units throughout South Vietnam and was a disaster for the Communist insurgency; it never recovered from its loses. This Tet Offensive was a coordinated “Do or Die” attack by every Viet Cong unit in South Vietnam on the night of January 30 and the morning of January 31, 1968 that simultaneously struck every South Vietnamese City, village, and military installation in an attempt to win the war in one country wide attack; they failed and they paid the price for their failure; they died.

The war was carried on after Tet 1968 by invading North Vietnamese, and North Vietnam could never move sufficient troops down the Ho Chi Minh Trail to ever hope to defeat the United States effort in South Vietnam, so they resorted to another Communist tactic; they lied.

1968 was a Presidential Election year in the United States, and the Communist Party USA attempted to use the Tet Offensive to influence the election by claiming it was a Communist victory and the war was lost. This American Communist Party organized an anti-war movement and assembled enough strength through this movement to seize control of the Democrat Party that summer during the 1968 Democrat Convention in Chicago.

These Communists attempted to nominate a Presidential candidate who would end the war and they failed, but the Communist Party USA still retained control of the Democrat Party, and this Party managed to elect enough Leftists to Congress to cut funding for the Vietnam War and the war was then lost, so in this way the 1968 Tet Offensive was indeed a Communist victory.

After using the Tet Offensive to gain control of the Democrat Party, the Communist Party USA never lost control of the Democrat Party, and when a few decades later they managed to elect an avowed Marxist Communist, Barack Hussein Obama, to the Presidency of the United States, it made the 1968 Tet Offensive the greatest Communist victory of all times.


29 posted on 05/23/2016 11:41:18 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Seruzawa

As a Vietnam vet I have VERY mixed feelings about Obama’s motives in this case.

But I also know Vietnamese hatred of China goes back more than 1,000 years to a Chinese occupation of Vietnam that lasted 1,000 years before that.

Vietnam regards the Paracel & Spratly islands as theirs. Might as well make things dicey for Beijing as the Dragon learns how to swim.

Meanwhile Japan has cut off its younger generations from knowledge of its atrocities in Asia 1937-1945. But in China those memories are very much alive.

I do wonder what communist Vietnam will have to offer in foreign exchange to buy all these new toys.


30 posted on 05/23/2016 11:43:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Innovative

So King Hussein can do this without Kongress?????


31 posted on 05/23/2016 11:46:01 AM PDT by TRY ONE (I never got the memo changing the name of Global Warming to Klimate Change)
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To: TRY ONE

Dear Leader embracing what he loves.


32 posted on 05/23/2016 11:51:28 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Innovative

“...now we will sell weapons to Vietnam...”

No, we’ll probably GIVE arms to Vietnam...


33 posted on 05/23/2016 11:55:34 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Ancient Man

58,220 men and women of America killed in Vietnam......


34 posted on 05/23/2016 11:58:37 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Innovative

Well, dammit, its ok for them to buy guns but he wants to restrict our purchases!

FUBO!


35 posted on 05/23/2016 12:01:40 PM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Is that not the most ridiculous picture ever??? Not only was he stupid enough to have the weapon pointed at his forehead, he actually never served one day in a combat unit...He was a military journalist....This was a staged photo...A staged STUPID photo, at that....


36 posted on 05/23/2016 12:02:03 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Innovative

Aside from the fact that they are a communist country, I thought this was done long ago. I’m more concerned or upset with the latest apology tour and pictures posing in front of Ho Chi Min and so forth.


37 posted on 05/23/2016 12:06:22 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Like herpes, Cruz can always flare up again. Treat with Trump.)
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To: Innovative

We never embargoed arms from USSR or China either. Much to the frustration of those of us trying to fight the NVA.

TC


38 posted on 05/23/2016 12:08:09 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Innovative

Any arms company that sells to them ought to be boycotted.

They all need to be aware of that.


39 posted on 05/23/2016 12:32:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ancient Man

United States casualties in Vietnam
58,307 dead; 303,644 wounded
— Wikipedia


40 posted on 05/23/2016 12:37:41 PM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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