Posted on 05/21/2016 1:40:51 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
Billyboy: See #40. Meant to ping you!
BlackElk, I agree with your suggestions. I hope that many people will attend a meeting of the Illinois Center Right Coalition on June 25, including leaders of pro-life, pro-gun, and tea party groups, so they can persuade their groups to cooperate better. The meeting will start at noon, at 39W140 Freeman Rd., Gilberts. We’ll hold a steering committee election, and, to vote in that election, someone must have paid dues at least 30 days before the meeting, May 26.
Each congressional district (not state senate district) has a member of the IL GOP State Central Committee. Their member from the 8th District, Ryan Higgins, supported changing the platform, last week.
Finally: Is "Gilberts" a town? A restaurant? If not, you need to post the town and name of restaurant.
Did this Higgins support man/boy/goat marriage or was he a good guy?
One State Central member per CD is very bad news. The bigger the committee, the harder for the slime to control it. When there is one member per CD, it is not difficult for the generally useless Congresscritters to control who gets elected in any GOP CD. One per Senate District is better and less controllable and corruptible. One per State House District is still better. Two per district is still better. We have people. They don't.
With a greatly expanded state central committee, we probably are subject to being embarrassed by a few ideological nutcases but that is quite controllable as the currently constituted state central committee is not.
Are the current state central committee members subject to primaries? That might be another avenue. Take control, change the rules, vastly expand the state central committee and run the social revolutionaries and other letists off the committee altogether.
Gilberts is a town. It’s about five miles west of Elgin.
I thought that Ryan Higgins was conservative, but I don’t know a lot about him. He’s the Schaumburg Township republican committeeman.
The IL GOP State Central Committee is elected every four years (the same years as governor elections) during the county party conventions. Only precinct committeemen, ward committeemen, and township committeemen may vote in those elections. Any democrat primary voter may vote for their State Central Committee. I think that all republican primary voters should be able to vote for our SCC. At least twice, within the past 11 years, the state senate passed bills to make that change. The house didn’t vote on it because Speaker Madigan didn’t allow them to vote on it.
>> Did this Higgins support man/boy/goat marriage or was he a good guy?
>> I thought that Ryan Higgins was conservative, but I don’t know a lot about him. He’s the Schaumburg Township republican committeeman. <<
Ryan Higgins (not to be confused with LAURA Higgins, a pro-family conservative who has the same last name but is NOT related to Ryan and was the person who Pat Brady texted the F-bomb to) is the slimeball who WROTE the new plank calling on the GOP to welcome the view that "non-traditional families are worthy of the same respect and legal protections as traditional families"
Even worse, he was the one at the floor session of the general assembly that made the speech THREATENING delegates that we BETTER adopt his new "big tent" platform plank or we'd be "abandoning religious freedom" and "removing God just like the Democrats". Higgins was rightfully booed at the convention. He and Pat Brady were the ones most outspoken about removing one man-one woman marriage from the GOP platform. (Pat Brady sneered that we'd "lose young people in droves" and "the next party convention will be held in a phone booth" if we didn't do his bidding)
It's pretty sad that Higgins represents the district once held by Phil Crane and Joe Walsh. Here's a video tribute that aptly sums up what convention delegates thought of Higgins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOvIot-i6rY
On the flip side, some of the members of the platform committee that passionately fought FOR preserving the 2012 traditional marriage plank were Dave Carabotta of the 9th district, Patti Howard of the 12th district (who personally spoke to us before the meeting and informed us that the committee was planning to abandon marriage and she would do everything possible to stop them), J.C. Kowa of the 15th district, and Raquel Mitchell of the 11th district, who is an feisty young black conservative lady and has a bright future in the party. I should also note that Marjorie Kubalanza represented the 10th district on the platform committee (Mark Kirk/Bob Dold ultra social liberal RINO land) and she steadfastly REFUSED to cave to demands to remove the traditional marriage plank, saying that she couldn't in good conscience vote for the proposed language because it went against her Catholic upbringing.
It must take particular nobility and courage to be Marjorie Kubalanza in representing Kirk/Dold land as she did AND defending Western Civilization. Likewise all those whom you mentioned who did likewise and particularly Raquel Mitchell. They should all be given the opportunity at conservative functions to tell their convention war stories.
Everyone: So, given Michael Madigan's opposition to allowing REPUBLICAN primary voters to choose their own state central committee members, while allowing the rank and file Demonrats to choose theirs, we have our finger on the pulse of Illinois Combinism.
This also constitutes an opportunity for a young conservative attorney "on the make" to "make his bones" by filing a federal lawsuit claiming on behalf of various Republican voters denial of equal protection of law under the Fourteenth Amendment and having some public fun with the concept that, in Illinois, by connivance of the Demonrat Machine and their GOP-E sockpuppets, actual Republicans are soooooo trampled as to have become a "suspect class." Whatever the decision of a federal district court, an adverse decision would allow an appeal to the 7th Circuit where the appeal my be heard by Dan Manion, Richard Posner, Frank Esterbrook, Diana Sykes, etc. It is worth the chance.
A future cause should be CLOSING the GOP primary and actual party registration becoming available in Illinois. Unaffiliated voters have no skin in the game and no political investment in the party. Why should they have any say so in the primary? Make them be registered Republicans a minimum of six months BEFORE the primary to vote in the primary. This will keep Demonrats OUT of our primaries. Also have a provision that anyone leaving one party must wait six months before being eligible to register with the opposite party.
I disagree that, if Illinois has closed primaries, they should require someone to be a new party for at least six months before voting in the new party’s primary. We usually don’t know which candidates will be on the primary ballot until three months before the primary.
I have a suggestion for another election reform. In 101 Illinois counties (all except Cook), primary voters may vote for precinct committeemen. In Cook Co., we vote for ward and township committeemen, who appoint and fire precinct captains. Why is Cook Co. different than the rest of Illinois? Do you think that the legislature should pass a bill to change that? Last week, I emailed three state senators and three state reps., about that.
“We usually don’t know which candidates will be on the primary ballot until three months before the primary.”
So? Punks who aren’t Republicans have no business voting in Republican primaries and restrictions on switching are an excellent precaution.
It’s disgusting that democrats can elect their central committee members and Republicans can’t, I was not aware that rat primary voters got to directly elect theirs.
Electing precinct captains in Cook sounds like a good idea to me. My former longtime Ward committeeman was believed to be a dem stooge, he did not respond to emails from me asking him why I should vote to reelect him.
I was very skeptical of Rauner but I’m impressed with how he’s kept his promise to stand up to Madigan.
A shame we didn’t take a dent of the disgusting rat supermajories in the leg, (another than gaining 1 Senate seat).
I voted in the 2005 democrat primary for North Chicago mayor because that race had four Democrats and one Republican. I didn’t know, until after the filing period, that only one Republican was running, mainly because I was in Iraq and didn’t read much news. If we had closed primaries and I had to vote in the republican primary, that race would have been boring, since it had one candidate. I voted for the least liberal Democrat, and he won the primary and general elections. If a law stated that we will have closed primaries and that, for the primary, during an even-numbered year election, a voter must change parties at least six months before that primary, that would be a good idea, since, during even-numbered years, we vote for many partisan offices.
I do not understand what makes Cook different. Aren't wards and precincts essentially the same thing? Township committeemen may be different. Are precinct captains officials who should not be subject to removal by elected party leaders?
As to your first paragraph, the freedom you seek for any Tom, Dick or Harriet to vote in the party primary of their choice on the whim of the moment is a national plague in many states and does not work well for Illinois conservatives. Gone are the days when a conservative might want to help a Democrat like Roman Pucinski. The only remaining Democrat who is an American in the entire Congressional delegation is Dan Lipinski. pinions may vary on him but, as with most Chicago districts, he is not going to be defeated by a Republican.
In exchanging the ephemeral advantage of maybe helping one decent Democrat every decade, we can exclude ALL Demonrats and ALL Demonrats posing as "unaffiliated" from our primaries and by that act move the results as sharply rightward as WE choose, make the continued existence of the Combine impossible and empower Illinois conservatives for the first time in most of our lifetimes. We would be abe to nominate CONSERVATIVE candidates and fight elections on OUR terms.
There are plenty of socially conservative Democrat voters but they are seldom tempted to vote for the Pat Brady, Ryan Higgins, Combine-type social revolutionary, abortion-loving, gay coddling "GOP-E" types who exist to take the crumbs that fall to them from the Demonrat table. We need to put the red meat down where the folks can get it.
Here in Illinois 16, it would make more likely a primary challenge to our slimeball Congressman Kinzinger (whose profile includes neither his religion if any or details as to his family if any unlike the rest of them). Kinzinger is purely a product of Combiner politics with an assist from Boehner, Cantor, Ryan and McCarthy. If we had closed our primary before 2010, Don Manzullos would still be i Congress and Kinzinger would still represent Chicagoland or have been disposed of by his Demonrat buddies in favor of one of their own.
As to your suggestion, what do you want the legislature to enact and be signed by Rauner who is a RINO but was preferable to Quinn on money matters and probably a smidgeon (but no more than a smidgeon) better on other issues?
Gotta go now for surgery. If all goes well, I should be back on line tonight.
Everyone: pray for me!
Republicans used to be able to elect our own state central committee members back 'til the 70's and the ascendancy of big jim thompson ... he wanted to make the party more "manageable", hence the party changed its rules. These rules can either be revised internally by the party the leadership or externally by action of the state legislature.
in 2004, after the state central committee's total mishandling of replacing jack ryan on the ballot for senate, a number of us worked hard to get that change initiated but the party leadership would not budge so we tried to circumvent the party and do it be legislation, and thus the fight for SB600 began and gained some, but not enough steam. i forget whether it was chris lauzen or dave syverson who got it to sneak thru the state senate but it passed unanimously.
when it arrived in the house, tom cross sat on it for a while and then handed it off to one of his more notable henchmen, skippy saviano, with instructions to never let it see the light of day. i and a couple others personally went to springfield to lobby skippy and came away feeling not only soiled but somewhat intimidated ... it played out like a scene from "the godfather".
SB600 finally just died (unpassed) of old age.
Yes but the question I have that no one seems to be able to give me a good answer for is: How did we in Illinois manage to elect a Republican Governor without ousting Durbin at the same time?
No, wards and precincts aren’t the same thing. In Chicago, each ward usually has 25-30 precincts. I think that our legislature should pass a bill that would state that Cook Co. voters may vote for precinct committeemen, like the voters of Illinois’ other 101 counties. Within the past week, I emailed Chris Cleveland (chairman of the Chicago Republican Party), Sherri Griffith (vice-chairman of the Chicago Republican Party), and at least eight township and ward committeemen. I asked them why Cook Co. is different. None of them answered my question.
I think that Durbin and Rauner won, in 2014, because they agree about many issues. Rauner is pro-choice. He supports the law that allows illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses. In 2014, he said that he wanted to increase the minimum wage and the state sales tax rate.
It’s called ticket splitting and it’s extremely common in modern politics. Some people voted for Rauner and Durbin, while comparatively very few people would have voted for Quinn and Oberweis. Illinois has been far more inclined recently to vote Republican for Governor than for Senator.
Durbin was not nearly as unpopular as Quinn, a complete disaster as Governor, and Oberweis was a weak candidate and never at any point during the campaign did anyone serious seriously think he could win.
Michigan, Colorado, Massachusetts, New Mexico, and Alaska, also had different parties win Senator and Governor in 2014.
I have no intention of ever voting in a rat primary despite living in Chicago.
In any case, the inability to interfere in their primaries is a small price to pay to prevent them from corrupting ours.
Dirty bastards
Well, karma is a bitch, Cross got the State Treasurership stolen from him and Skippy got gerrymandered out of his seat in the House in 2012, lost to a rat who looks like Mike Huckabee’s twin sister.
Didn’t see your post until now. Prayers that your surgery went well.
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