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U.S. Crews Fail To Place in NATO Tank Competition
Popular Mechanics ^ | 5/17/16 | Kyle Mizokami May 17, 2016

Posted on 05/19/2016 6:59:59 AM PDT by Nachum

A recent competition hosted in part by the U.S. Army and designed to test core tank crew skills saw European crews take the top honors, while crews from the U.S. Army failed to place. The results raise the question of whether the Army—after more than a decade of focusing on guerrilla warfare—has devoted adequate training to address "big war" skills.

Held from May 10 to 12 and jointly hosted by the U.S. Army and the German Bundeswehr at the Grafenwoehr Training Area in Germany, the the Strong Europe Tank Challenge included challengers from six NATO countries: Denmark, Germany, Italy, Poland, and Slovenia—which sent tank platoons of four tanks each to compete— and the United States, which sent two platoons.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; competition; crews; nato; obamalegacy; tank; usarmy
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To: Nachum

Puke.

Our tankers are the envy of the world. Not place my ass. Probably because they don’t care about a stupid “competition “.

All I care is in real battle, they kick ass with low losses.

Too many dumb articles on FR these days.


41 posted on 05/19/2016 11:21:07 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: Nachum

IS it the gay factor?

Fire in the hole and all that?


42 posted on 05/19/2016 12:16:38 PM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


43 posted on 05/19/2016 5:43:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

I read about this. The Army picked out a crew, gave them about a week to train for it, and sent them out there. The other countries’ tank crews had quite a bit of prep time. Failing to place in a glorified dog-and-pony show wouldn’t bother me one bit.


44 posted on 05/19/2016 7:08:49 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: rrrod; progunner

How the mighty have fallen.


45 posted on 05/19/2016 7:16:12 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Lower Deck; SoCal Pubbie; Nachum
Lower Deck: "...from 1963 to 1991 NATO had a tank competition the winner of which was awarded...
...And one fifth the number of times the Germans won it.
Maybe tank gunnery just isn’t your thing?"

SoCal Pubbie: "Maybe we just sent the wrong crews, since National Guard tankers beat their Regular U.S. Army counterparts..."

I seem to remember a tank competition in 1991, in Kuwait, iirc.
There were tanks represented from virtually every country on earth, and the final score was US & Co.: thousands, opposition: zero.
Of course, back in those days we weren't as politically correct, or gender integrated, not so sensitive to people's feeeeeeeeeeeeeelings, so maybe those results were just thrown out, the match forfeited and had to be played over...
Now I can't remember...

;-)

46 posted on 05/20/2016 5:17:06 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: rockinqsranch; Nachum
rockingsranch: "I read an article by somebody involved with a military 'think-tank' (no pun intended) many years ago, and I do mean many years ago espousing tank warfare as antiquated, and that tanks were going the way of the dinosaur."

The first tanks in the First World War were quickly antiquated by both anti-tank weapons and better tanks.
But in the Second World War ever-improving tanks, supporting and supported by infantry, artillery & air power, dominated many battlefields.
And so it has been ever since.

Tanks have never been self-sufficient.
They always help and need help from other weapons' systems, including infantry.
But on many battlefields today, or in the future, give troops the choice of going into battle with, or without, tanks and they will chose tanks every time.

47 posted on 05/20/2016 5:30:12 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Jet Jaguar

please take me off your ping list...thank you


48 posted on 05/20/2016 10:58:48 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

No problem. You have been removed.


49 posted on 05/20/2016 6:00:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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