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NSA Canceled Program That Could’ve Stopped 9/11 Weeks Before Attacks, Then Silenced its Creator
Free Thought Project ^ | 5/13/2016 | Claire Burnish

Posted on 05/15/2016 5:34:36 AM PDT by HomerBohn

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To: PIF; bobsunshine
Here are some links regarding this piece: "Clinton Lawyers: Mohamed Atta Off-Limits":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1462140/posts?page=86

http://able2know.org/topic/57383-1

41 posted on 05/15/2016 7:07:54 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: fruser1

It referes to independantly developed intel that could not be used against the protected person of Mohammad Atta. Gorelick’s Wall was not the issue at hand and played no role here.


42 posted on 05/15/2016 7:11:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: bobsunshine

Thanks for reminding us about Able Danger.

If I remember correctly ABLE DANGER was a Pentagon run programme.

THIN THREAD run by NSA.


43 posted on 05/15/2016 7:13:04 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: PIF

Your post 17 makes no mention of how he was “inpedendantly” protected. It only refers to not being able to go after him because of the illegality of information sharing. Maybe provide link to full article if you have it.


44 posted on 05/15/2016 7:15:50 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Chode

A lot of people don’t even know about the further treachery this b!tch perpetrated on us. She was Vice Chairman of Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and she was part of the 9/11 commission that investigated herself, among other potential terrorists.]

She is a millionaire several times over as a result of bonuses from Fannie Mae. Last I heard about her she was a lawyer on the Duke University team leaving it in 2011 after the team lost in the Lacrosse scandal.


45 posted on 05/15/2016 7:20:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: PIF; bobsunshine

More links on this site:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=68941


46 posted on 05/15/2016 7:21:48 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: HomerBohn

Former National Security Agency technical director and surveillance state whistleblower William Binney has long said 9/11 could have been prevented had the NSA not capitulated to big-money private contractors less than a month prior to the attacks.

...

Bush and Clinton cronies.


47 posted on 05/15/2016 7:24:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: fruser1

Sorry do not have the link - search newsmax perhaps. That he is protected is plain in the language used. One does not need to spell these thing out. You would never find any document to that effect - not ever. Meaning is all in the language and in who is speaking and who is listening.


48 posted on 05/15/2016 7:25:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

The plain language of your post only indicates that the reason he was “protected” was because the independantly developed military intelligence could not be shared with the FBI. Lawyers told intel folks “you can’t touch him” in that context. Again, based on what you posted.

If you’re going to make the leap from the obvious to the paranoid, you do have to spell it out if you think you’re going to convince somebody of what you claim.


49 posted on 05/15/2016 7:32:08 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SueRae

“I’d still like to know what Sandy Berger removed from the archives”

I’m glad you reminded me of an accepted, yet seemingly uncontroversial story. Berger’s actions were bigger than Watergate, but it gets the “what does it really matter now?” treatment.


50 posted on 05/15/2016 7:33:01 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: fruser1

I give up. You are obviously correct. I must completely forget all the years I worked at NSA.


51 posted on 05/15/2016 7:33:20 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: HomerBohn; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...


52 posted on 05/15/2016 7:35:08 AM PDT by null and void ("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
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To: HomerBohn

So who was heading the NSA at the time? Was it one of those Clinton holdovers?


53 posted on 05/15/2016 7:37:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: HomerBohn

Biggest take away is the fact that the NSA did not even know they had the data. With even greater volumes being captured they will miss even more


54 posted on 05/15/2016 7:38:34 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: PIF

Sure.

You are asking me to forget all the years I have developed the ability to reason.


55 posted on 05/15/2016 7:39:45 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Chode

An old, sarcastic tag line of mine

ABLE DANGER?!?...What’s an Able Danger?


56 posted on 05/15/2016 7:40:32 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Chode

There was no Gorelick wall.

Congress had her investigate 9/11, and she found that the wall she put in place didn’t exist.

No. No wall.


57 posted on 05/15/2016 7:42:42 AM PDT by null and void ("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
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To: thoughtomator

” The Salman Pak plane is the same thing we do here to train emergency personnel”

It’s also been suggested that Saddam used them for anti-terrorism drills.

We know Saddam supported terrorism. He paid families of suicide bombers who targeted Israel. Iraq was a safe haven for retired terrorists. Initial intelligence reports identified Salman Pak as one of three terrorist training facilities. President Clinton went to war against Saddam Hussein and Iraq. There was a long pipeline of people prepared, probably trained, in airplane hijacking. Where did they practice?

9/11 did involve Saudi nationals, that in itself proves nothing.


58 posted on 05/15/2016 7:42:50 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: fruser1

Reasoning has nothing to do with this, despite the need to make it somehow make sense - these things have their own logic and internal reasoning that, unless you have been there, seem nonsensical.


59 posted on 05/15/2016 7:51:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: shelterguy
Is he saying 9/11 would have been prevented if the government was able to tap all our phones illegally?

No, you needed to read the rest of the sentence:

Though Binney and a number of others left the NSA when it instituted the illegal wiretap program, Stellar Wind, Drake remained at his post — and tested ThinThread to “find out if there’s any information of the 9/11 attack that we should have known about but didn’t,” he explained.

Binney left, but Drake stayed. Drake tested the system that Binney had developed, and found that it did indeed identify information that would have warned of the 9/11 attacks. The system that replaced it (only a few weeks before 9/11) missed the info.

A number of people have posted that this is Monday-morning quarterbacking. But, in data analysis and data mining systems, "look-back" testing is essential to determine the effectiveness of algorithms and methodologies. It's typically called a "validation" exercise. If it doesn't identify known events, then it is likely to miss unknown events.

I doubt the original system that was cancelled has been updated since 9/11. So, it's very likely it would have identified the information warning of a terrorist attack. However, it's worth noting that doesn't mean the information would have been acted on.... we already know that one of the future hijackers had been detained by the FBI and despite an agent's best efforts, they didn't follow up on the possibility of a larger plot.

60 posted on 05/15/2016 7:54:16 AM PDT by justlurking
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