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German Army Has to Leave NATO Exercises Early Because of Overtime Rules
The American Interest ^ | 5/3/2016 | NMG

Posted on 05/04/2016 2:44:24 PM PDT by Syncopated

A pair of stories out of Germany today illustrates the persistent gap between the lofty, ambitious rhetoric and small, faltering actions on government and defense in Europe today. The Telegraph reports:

German soldiers taking part in a four-week Nato exercise in Norway earlier this year had to leave after just 12 days because they had gone over their overtime limits, it has emerged. Troops have complained to a parliamentary watchdog that they are being forced to spend entire days doing nothing under the new rules.

“It can’t be that we can’t fulfil our Nato obligations because of overtime,” Hans-Peter Bertels, the German parliamentary commissioner for the armed forces, told Bild am Sonntag newspaper.[..]

Under the latest reforms, in force since January, the military working week has been reduced to 41 hours and troops can no longer be paid for working overtime.


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KEYWORDS: nato
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1 posted on 05/04/2016 2:44:24 PM PDT by Syncopated
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To: Syncopated
OUR ALLIES, everyone! How has Europe allowed it to get this bad?!
2 posted on 05/04/2016 2:45:31 PM PDT by Syncopated
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Blockheads!

Muslims don’t take breaks.


3 posted on 05/04/2016 2:46:30 PM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: Syncopated

Maybe Trump is right - Europe is not pulling its weight.


4 posted on 05/04/2016 2:47:34 PM PDT by cassiusking
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This is the kind of BS Trump was referring to when he was talking about our NATO allies not pulling their own weight


5 posted on 05/04/2016 2:47:58 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Syncopated

Does this mean that Germany is defenseless on weekends and holidays?


6 posted on 05/04/2016 2:48:01 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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Dissolve NATO. Protect only our friends: Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Israel and a very few others.

Crap on the rest of the world. They want Hillary for president.


7 posted on 05/04/2016 2:48:18 PM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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Well, if they weren’t wasting billions on entitlements for Muzzie invaders maybe they would have enough for their military to train. As it is now, they have already allowed over a million Muzzie invaders into their country, so why even have a military force?


8 posted on 05/04/2016 2:48:21 PM PDT by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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To: Syncopated

Yes Prime Minister - https://youtu.be/DUzRJfAc-HU?t=3m36s


9 posted on 05/04/2016 2:50:25 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Don’t say that so loud! Putin is curious!


10 posted on 05/04/2016 2:50:47 PM PDT by Syncopated
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I remember being on duty for 36 hours straight once without sleep. I almost hit the German limit in one stint. I wonder if Germany’s enemies have limits like that.


11 posted on 05/04/2016 2:51:10 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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Germany screams. “Take me Islam Give it to me hard”


12 posted on 05/04/2016 2:51:11 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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no no no... Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, are all amazing allies who contribute as much as their budgets allow. I've served with these countries. They're amazing partners, and desperately dependent on American muscle for their existence and they appreciate it immensely.
13 posted on 05/04/2016 2:52:01 PM PDT by Syncopated
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Let’s be real.

The US’ list of actual allies goes something like: Canada, Australia, UK.

Most of the nations referred to by the term “ally” really should be called vassal states.

For example, if Germany was actually an independent nation and not a vassal state of the US, the wiretapping of Merkel would have been a really really really really really big deal.


14 posted on 05/04/2016 2:55:21 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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I forgot to name this trio and you’re absolutely right.


15 posted on 05/04/2016 2:55:48 PM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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The EU Working Time Directive has an Exemption clause:

Exceptions:

You may have to work more than 48 hours a week on average if you work in a job:

So they are talking our of their collective....

16 posted on 05/04/2016 2:57:14 PM PDT by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) - Nah. ...Ermentrude chewed on some more grass and watched....)
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No problem, the US will take up the slack and expense for another seventy years.

Having once been property of the USMC I can assure you, I never even dreamed of anything like overtime rules.

In fact, I remember people praying that tomorrow would be hot enough to trigger the mysterious rule, which seemed to dictate to the tenth of a degree just where mercy began, that would permit us to receive chrome domes for a few hours.

17 posted on 05/04/2016 3:03:45 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Don’t forget mandatory Union coffe breaks.


18 posted on 05/04/2016 3:22:25 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Syncopated

It got this bad because NATO has been providing security cover for the slow, steady infiltration of statist, progressive-left government.


19 posted on 05/04/2016 3:22:35 PM PDT by PGR88
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This is unbelievable. For me, a 12 hour day was short day. 16 hours days were common and sometimes we went even longer, with a waiver that was always approved. And we were aircrew. The ground pounders had no such limitations. And overtime?! No such thing as overtime in our military. Today’s German army would collapse even faster than the French army of 1940. Much faster.


20 posted on 05/04/2016 3:22:49 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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