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Israeli car engine could halve fuel costs, emissions
The Times of Israel ^ | April 27, 2016 | David Shamah

Posted on 04/29/2016 10:51:22 AM PDT by DJ Taylor

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To: bert

No


41 posted on 04/29/2016 11:32:55 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: T. P. Pole

It’ll also grow hair, reduce under-the-eye bags, whiten teeth and help you lose 30lbs.


42 posted on 04/29/2016 11:33:20 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: bert

“but does the author know anything about which he writes?”

Doesn’t sound like it.

Seems this is a hybrid akin to a diesel electric locomotive. Less moving drive-train parts...but energy conversion losses. Not sure what is so revolutionary about this one...and the author does nothing to explain how the valves are eliminated.


43 posted on 04/29/2016 11:33:33 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: Steely Tom

“This is not a new idea. At least 40 years old”

I have a variation on my own drawing board. Normally if I’m thinking something up, it has already been done.


44 posted on 04/29/2016 11:33:48 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Exactly what I was thinking. The article says very little about the design, but in the picture from the article, the man appears to be holding an aluminum part.

Also consider this: they gave a lyrical, inspiring name to their invention, but it's in English.

Typically, Israelis give their big projects Hebrew names, that come out in English like "Kippat Barzel" or "Tzuk Eitan." When translated into English, they don't sound so lyrical ("Iron Dome" and "Cast Lead").

The more I read about this, the more I'm thinking "fundraising project."

45 posted on 04/29/2016 11:39:35 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to have an idea that’s (a) a good idea, and (b) hasn’t already been thought of.


46 posted on 04/29/2016 11:41:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: bert

Tell us more about Maya...


47 posted on 04/29/2016 11:42:00 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Rap music: Soundtrack of the retarded.)
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To: Made In The USA
Tell us more about Maya...

Eastern European, I'm thinking. Maybe Russian, or second-generation Russian immigrant parents.

48 posted on 04/29/2016 11:45:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: DJ Taylor
Toyota is developing the same concept


49 posted on 04/29/2016 11:45:23 AM PDT by Iron Munro (. - rOUND UOP)
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To: TalBlack

“So, ah, a lawnmower engine pushing a generator? That better be one BIG piston because the power needed to push a car around will require a pretty damn heavy gen.”

Either the author really doesn’t understand IC engines, or he’s a very poor author attempting to describe what makes this idea/concept so different or unique. Wonder if it’s just a very scaled down version of a diesel electric locomotive, but using a gasoline engine.


50 posted on 04/29/2016 11:47:54 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Elderberry

Total fakery. Look at that and think about how it might turn a wheel. What is the 90 degree fitting floating in air?

Plus there is the red flag of an extra step in energy conversion. The engine converts fuel to motion, converts the motion to electrical energy, then converts it back to motion to drive the wheels.


51 posted on 04/29/2016 11:50:29 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: SoCal Pubbie

That’s why its described as a “new take” on internal combustion engines.


52 posted on 04/29/2016 11:52:37 AM PDT by TheConservator ("I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless, but not men.")
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To: DJ Taylor

(IIRC) The Top Gear guys did a stunt where they just put a gasoline powered generator in the back of an electric car and used it to power everything without a lot of batteries. Got good mileage up to the point where the exhaust from the generator nearly killed them.


53 posted on 04/29/2016 11:55:14 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: mbarker12474

That’s basically what a hybrid is—a small gas engine that continuously recharges an electric car as it’s running.


54 posted on 04/29/2016 11:55:16 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: TheConservator

Yes, you’re correct. I guess the part about new infrastructure left me thinking they were implying that it replaced the IC engine.


55 posted on 04/29/2016 11:55:21 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ecomcon
Plus there is the red flag of an extra step in energy conversion. The engine converts fuel to motion, converts the motion to electrical energy, then converts it back to motion to drive the wheels.

That actually can work out, because you gain back more from running the engine under precisely optimum speed and power conditions for every load, using sensors and computers to make small adjustments to engine timing.

The advantage diminishes for smaller engines. For big engines, like on locomotives, it works out well. That's why Diesel-electric locomotives have been the norm for more than fifty years.

They are actually claiming the "optimal operating point" advantage in some of the stories that have been written about their engine.

I'm thinking "scam," or - more charitably - an outlet for wealthy wishful thinkers who lack a high degree of technical knowledge.

56 posted on 04/29/2016 11:56:25 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: bert
but does the author know anything about which he writes?

Why would this one be an exception?

57 posted on 04/29/2016 11:57:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: taxcontrol

Actually the RX-9 is in the works with an 16x wankel engine

http://www.motoring.com.au/mazda-rotary-details-firm-46719/


58 posted on 04/29/2016 12:00:36 PM PDT by Cosmo105
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To: JimRed
Good ideas are often killed partial birth to keep market share for existing ones.

The Tucker automobile, for one.

Wankels worked, but they were assailed because they were not as intuitive as reciprocating engines, and quickly lost popularity because few people understood them.

"Where are you going to get it worked on if you have a problem?" Is a serious enough question to keep something from gaining traction.

59 posted on 04/29/2016 12:02:17 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
To save a little time, their engine is a horizontally mounted single cylinder (lawnmower engine) that turns an electrical generator, the current from which runs everything.

60 posted on 04/29/2016 12:06:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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