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Trump's foreign policy speech left experts puzzled or appalled
the fiscal times ^ | april 28 2016 | rob garver

Posted on 04/28/2016 11:17:56 AM PDT by SteveH

Donald Trump gave an amazing speech about his approach to US foreign policy on Wednesday, at least according to Donald Trump. At an event sponsored by the Center for the National Interest, the Republican presidential frontrunner delivered a 5,000-word speech touching on his criticisms of the Obama administration’s approach to national security, the need to whip US allies into shape, and promised that he alone can restore what he described as the lost standing of the US in world affairs.

A Trump foreign policy would eschew “nation building” but would still somehow promote stability worldwide. It would teach our allies to trust us again, even while making a point of behaving “unpredictably.” It would teach the US military to “fight to win,” as opposed to...whatever it is he thinks the military does now.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: trump; trumpforeignpolicy; trumpspeech; uk
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To: BenLurkin

We need to do some nation building at home.

AMERICA is falling apart under the clown leadership we currently have.


81 posted on 04/28/2016 12:07:31 PM PDT by crusher2013 (Liberalism is Aristocracy masquerading as equality)
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To: BenLurkin; SteveH
'nation building' is NOT promoting stability anywhere

Before "nation building" projects began, countries like Egypt, Syria, and even Iraq and Libya were comparatively safe places for a westerner to visit. Egypt may be back to being so if Al Sisi can stay in power, which is in spite of rather than because of support for the "Arab Spring" from these self-styled expert nation builders.

82 posted on 04/28/2016 12:08:56 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: SteveH

Poor sad neocons, their sun is setting after a quarter century of misguided policy and the decline of American security, prosperity and liberty.

Go die.


83 posted on 04/28/2016 12:12:24 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (This year we break the Uniparty or it breaks us.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Trump delivered a capable summation of what went wrong with American foreign policy since the first George Bush. He sumerised commonsense criticisms that we have been writing and reading in this forum for years.

To state what has been obvious to conservatives obviously goes down well with conservatives. The foreign observers see the other side of the coin. The problem is it is the concerns of foreign countries which make up realities of foreign policy. Trump made a campaign speech for domestic consumption in an election campaign but our partners and adversaries abroad are not playing our game.

The weakness of the speech is not in lack of red meat for us, it is in the lack of solutions abroad, a lack which is compounded by some incoherence when Trump approaches but never really articulates solutions which will win for us with foreign leaders representing a separate set of interests.

This is the same failing which is so obvious with Trump
s trade policy. It sounds great to us but our trading partners do not share our interests and it takes two to make a deal.

Bluff and bluster sound patriotic and it is easy to succumb to the blandishments of a savior but he aint no savior abroad and those are the people who do play in that arena, not we domestic conservatives.

Clemenceau said, “God gave us ten commandments and we broke them all, now Wilson gives us his fourteen points, we shall see.”

We did see and so will Trump.


84 posted on 04/28/2016 12:13:09 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SteveH

Sorry, didn’t mean to come down so hard. Just annoys the crap out of me that we have to spend so much time and energy beating up on Republican candidates when that energy would be better spent ripping the REAL opposition!


85 posted on 04/28/2016 12:13:33 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: SteveH

Trump’s foreign policy speech was brilliant on many different levels, but one of the most brilliant aspects to his speech is that by formulating and articulating his foreign policy in as much detail as he did at this stage of the election, he’s actually defined the foreign policy issues that will be debated from this point forward in the election! Hillary must now speak to TRUMP’S foreign policy! Hillary must either agree or disagree with the elements of Trump’s policies, which pretty much means she will lose either way.

So, ONCE AGAIN, Donald J. Trump has defined the election issues and has defined them in such a way that it is win-win for him and lose-lose for his opponent. This is something I don’t ever recall seeing in the last 25 years, namely a GOP candidate defining the issues and putting the Democrat on the defensive, rather than the Democrat defining the issues and putting the GOP on the defensive.

[BTW, what’s Hillary’s foreign policy? Does she even have one? Can’t wait to hear her foreign policy speech!]


86 posted on 04/28/2016 12:15:08 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Since “experts” are generally either stupid or bought and paid for, this is probably a good thing.”

In my line of work an “expert” is someone who lives at least 500 miles away, is very expensive, and generally makes things so ridiculously overly complicated that they end up being the only person in the world capable of maintaining it. I cringe every time I hear of the muckity mucks in the office talking about having some “experts” come in and do a project.


87 posted on 04/28/2016 12:16:14 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: SteveH

Look for a whole series of these types of articles and comments coming from Western Europeans and their commentators. They do not like being threatened with being removed from the gravy train and having to pull their own weight. You know a candidate is doing something right when Western Europe is squawking about him.


88 posted on 04/28/2016 12:17:18 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: JBW1949

I am also 67.

Agreed.

Go Trump, GO! Go Trump, GO! Go Trump, GO!


89 posted on 04/28/2016 12:18:49 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Go Trump, GO!~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
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To: Bob434
hmmm- we’re living in one of he richest nations on earth, have been extremely safe for many many decades now on our own soil— Most people have great jobs, and live with abundance of material goods- running water, indoor plumbing, refrigerators, electricity 24/7 on and on and on it goes- All this despite the world being hostile to us because we have western values- who’s doubting?

Living off the gravy of WW2 Bob. Easy living until it's not.

90 posted on 04/28/2016 12:19:36 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I think you have to really be against Trump not to see that speech as excellent.

I think you have to really be against America and American citizens not to see that speech as excellent.

91 posted on 04/28/2016 12:41:56 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: SteveH

Look around the world. These “ Expert” (AKA Defense Contract Lobbyists) in the “Caucus for Perpetual War” are panicked that their might finally be a occupant of the White House who is not willing to write blank checks for their ever little proxy war daydream.


92 posted on 04/28/2016 12:42:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: SteveH

Globalists are not happy campers. They are neck deep into globalism and reshaping the US into a hopeless third world dung hole.

I can see why they put conservative American-Americans on their domestic terrorist list. They have worked so hard to keep us down and out of it. They popped their corks when the Tea Party first came up. Never thought we’d get this close to taking them out. : )


93 posted on 04/28/2016 12:45:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: BenLurkin

Here’s our new foreign policy as it pertains to invading another country:

We are not trying to establish a democracy. We’re here to break your crap until you are incapable of (doing whatever it was that caused us to invade). If you start doing it again, we’ll be back to break it again. You get to fix it yourself.”

We won the wars in Iraq in weeks. It’s the nation-building that failed and Trump’s 100% right when he says that needs to stop.


95 posted on 04/28/2016 12:54:28 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Crusher138

Considering the source and his attempt to lie on behalf of some unknown experts. BARF!


96 posted on 04/28/2016 12:56:07 PM PDT by Stayfree
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To: SteveH

Heads were definitely exploding!


97 posted on 04/28/2016 12:56:36 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Nations need to find their own way—evolve their own form of rule..

Agree 100%. We defeated Iraq (both times) in weeks. It's the nation-building that caused all the problems.

98 posted on 04/28/2016 12:59:13 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: nikos1121

That speech was not intended for Karl Rove, or for the NYTimes or the WSJ. that speech was intended for our enemies.
~ ~ ~ ~

Very good point.


99 posted on 04/28/2016 12:59:21 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
1991 -- President Bush praises the New World Order in a State of Union Message:

"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea -- a new world order... to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind... based on shared principles and the rule of law.... The illumination of a thousand points of light.... The winds of change are with us now."

Taken from the essay New World Order: Conspiracy or Real World Order

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/New_World_Order/NWO_ConspiracyOrReal%3F.html

Until recently, I would have discounted essays like this as tinfoil hat conspiracies.

But the farther down the globalist road the we go, the harder it is to deny that there's something really going on here. Even if it's not 100% accurate, whatever it is that they're doing is NOT for OUR benefit, the middle class working class Americans.

100 posted on 04/28/2016 1:02:30 PM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (America is a country founded by geniuses and run by idiots. Trump 2016)
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