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After Trump's sweep, does Cruz-Kasich Hail Mary have a prayer?
Fox News ^ | 26 Apr 16 | April 26, 2016

Posted on 04/27/2016 5:43:30 AM PDT by xzins

The wins help Trump not only in terms of delegates, but also give the billionaire bragging rights and the ability to rhetorically sidelinehis rivals. On Tuesday he said about the primary race: “As far as I’m concerned it’s over.”

The Cruz-Kasich strategy had already been facing difficulties. Shortly after the plan was announced, Kasich undercut the strategy Monday, saying “I’ve never told [supporters] not to vote for me. They ought to vote for me.” He sought to downplay the strategy as well, describing it as “not a big deal.”

Kasich’s struggling campaign was dealt another blow when it was revealed Monday that Kasich was not featured in an Oregon voters’ guide after the campaign missed the deadline to submit information for the pamphlet.

Even in states like Indiana, where Cruz is investing his resources, he still trails significantly behind Trump. The latest Fox News poll gave Trump an eight point lead over Cruz. Trump collected 41 percent, while Cruz had 33. Kasich was a distant third with 16 percent.

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1 posted on 04/27/2016 5:43:30 AM PDT by xzins
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To: All; Jim Robinson

As always, if you wish to win your opponent to your side, you do not gloat. It is crucial for a win in November over the Clinton/Media machine that Trump supporters ask non-supporters to take that gamble on Trump that these voters would think it to be.

It is certainly a better gamble than to gamble on Clinton. We know what she will do.

We also MUST united around the Senate campaign. One of the worst scenarios is a Trump win and a senate loss. Why? Because the new senate will be seated BEFORE the change of presidents. In that almost 3 week period, Obama could approve a new SCOTUS justice with the democrats moving quickly to the nuclear option. They won’t really care about the implications.

So, reality is that neither Ted Cruz nor John Kasich have any mathematical shot at victory.

Can they fight for a brokered convention? Sure. But it will so divide the anti-Clinton forces that it will throw the Senate to the democrats who have a huge advantage this year in terms of seats up for election.

To Cruz supporters, this is a heartfelt request. Become an anti-Clinton supporter. Stand aside the in Indiana and elsewhere so we can unite the anti-Clinton alliance.

Stand aside so we can unite the anti-liberal SCOTUS forces.


2 posted on 04/27/2016 5:43:49 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins

Cruz and Kasich need a new angle.

How about having Bishop Willard Romney
marrying them on the Internet.
A TRUE co-Presidency.


3 posted on 04/27/2016 5:46:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: xzins

No. And Hillary is praying to St. Jude.


4 posted on 04/27/2016 5:48:25 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("People who hate hate now appear to be more hateful than people who merely hate." ~Dennis Miller)
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To: Savage Beast

Is St. Jude the “lost cause” guy?


5 posted on 04/27/2016 5:49:14 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Diogenesis; Jane Long

6 posted on 04/27/2016 5:53:16 AM PDT by maggief (Rush: Charter member of the DBR - Drive By Radio)
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To: Diogenesis; P-Marlowe

Please see post #1

I think Romney and Beck injured Cruz’s campaign. It began the meme of “fringe” and “establishment” ties.

Initially, I think Cruz simply waited too long to go on the offensive. He spent his money building organization and infrastructure. That has been effective. It’s no doubt. In a historical sense, it is McClellan versus Lee. Lee was on the offensive. McClellan was busy building an insurmountable army. Lee won that round.

But he should have gone on the offensive a month earlier and been content with a little less infrastructure.


7 posted on 04/27/2016 5:53:18 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins

To answer the question directly, NO.


8 posted on 04/27/2016 5:55:28 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Savage Beast

Who is the saint of persistent coughing? That lady has chronic bronchitis from smoking and toking. I’d bet money on it.


9 posted on 04/27/2016 5:55:42 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: ManHunter; Diogenesis

Post #2


10 posted on 04/27/2016 5:56:33 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins

I think Kasich made it quite evident that it is a Cruz hail Mary and that while verbally agreed upon, not so much in reality. Kasich wants as many delegates as he can get going into Cleveland.


11 posted on 04/27/2016 5:59:38 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Yep, and here’s her lost cause. In PA, a state that is more than 3:2 Dem to Rep, Hillary got 918,649 total votes. Trump was right behind her with 892,702. This, in a closed primary where independents couldn’t vote.

Contrast this with 2008. Obama got 1,275,039 votes to McCain’s 595,175. PA is in play, big time.

If Trump wins PA, he will only need the rest of the Romney states plus FL (very doable) and either OH or MI to win.


12 posted on 04/27/2016 5:59:43 AM PDT by LNV (Nov. 2016-Trump the B!tch!)
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To: xzins
Sick of Fox

Watched Hannity last kept praising Cruz for the race he has run

He is unelectable only wins caucuses

# Million Votes down

47% of GOP voters think he is unethical

Fox is back on the list with Rush, Levin, I could never watch Beck after he left Fox

13 posted on 04/27/2016 6:00:38 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Robert DeLong

I think other states are just as important as Ohio. Kasich is playing for the Veep position. It’s obvious to me now.

But I think Arizona is just as important, or perhaps Pennsylvania or New Jersey. They all look like possible pick-ups now.


14 posted on 04/27/2016 6:12:34 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: scooby321

Hannity is one of the most fair of the fair with Donald Trump throughout this entire process. No one has given more time to Trump than Hannity has.


15 posted on 04/27/2016 6:13:27 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Diogenesis

"Ted, - Trump told me to peddle my ass back to Ohio."

16 posted on 04/27/2016 6:14:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: xzins
About that Senate loss? Trump is going to have to use his skills to bring some dems on board for the issues needed to save the US. Some of the lying backstabbers up for re-election? There's no point in re-electing them. It's wrong to reward those who steal elections with lies to their voting fodder.

Look at Cochran and Murkowski. They both had elections stolen for them And they've become even more detached from voter sentiment. Look at McCain. He's back to lying to the voters about his agenda. Look at that despicable Ayotte. She traitored her voting fodder before she even unpacked in DC. Look at Portman. He had the nerve to RoboCall for KSick, he traitored the pro-marriage agenda, and he never met a global trade deal he didn't love. Etc ad nauseum.

What's my point? There's not much worth saving in the US Senate.

17 posted on 04/27/2016 6:21:00 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

However, all those you mention will vote for a conservative scotus pick put forward by a republican president.

If they can’t be primaried, then we have to support them. Bad medicine, I know, but Scotus is so important.


18 posted on 04/27/2016 6:23:16 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: xzins

After the damage inflicted by the juvenile tone of this election set by Trump (yes Trump started it) I am not sure that the wounds will heal merely by Trump getting the necessary 1237 votes before the Convention. In my opinion (and apparently it is an opinion that has gotten more than one poster zotted) a brokered convention would have been the best way to get unity in the party.

The party right now is fractured and the anti-establishment crowd is dancing in the streets and mocking the losers.

FWIW, Cruz has always been anti-establishment and Trump has always been a dues paying member of the establishment. But Trump poised himself as the pinnacle of antiestablismentarianism and ran on it using a campaign that appealed to the baser instincts of people who were fed up with the GOP and their leadership.

When you examine the actual positions taken by Trump on several key issues he does not come across as anything close to a Constitutional Conservative. Instead he comes across simply as an antiestablishmentarian who thinks he can solve all the ills of the country with a pen and a phone without any regard to whether or not such actions would be Constitutional or not.

IOW, like it or not, Donald Trump will likely rule as a populist tyrant. I can only hope that he will pick Constitutional Conservatives for important positions within the administration who can rein him in and keep him from being a power mad demagogue. He ran a top-down campaign and he has run a top down business enterprise. He will likely be a top down president.

Our founders did not envision the power that has been granted to a single man when they drafted the Constitution, nor did they envision that a president would be elected by popular demand. But that is where we are now and we will have to deal with it.

Presidential power is likely to continue to grow over the next few decades and unless Congress can reign it in, we will eventually be ruled by a dictator. Maybe a tyrant and maybe a benevolent dictator, but we are headed towards that end. And Congress (including Ted Cruz BTW) has at every turn surrendered its powers to rein in the president and given him authority that was never envisioned by the founders.

Of all the candidates in this race, I believe that Ted Cruz was the one candidate who truly had a deep understanding of the role of the president and the intent of the founders in regard to that office. His campaign got sidetracked by a number of things which suggest that he probably would not have been a very effective president at this time anyway. He lost his focus when the going got tough. He became a reactionary to the situation rather than a leader. His teaming up with Glenn Beck was an example of extremely poor leadership. He should have known better and should have investigated Glenn Beck before hitching his wagon to that horse.

All I can say about Trump is that he cannot possibly be as bad for this country as Hillary. But that doesn’t mean I have any illusion that he is going to be good for the country. We are in a post constitutional era and I was hoping that we would get a candidate who understood the constitution and was willing to fight to restore it. I don’t believe Trump is that man.

Maybe if he is elected he will choose not to run for a second term and we can all work to get a candidate who will understand and restore our Constitutional Republic. But I’m not going to hold my breath. I don’t think such a person could ever get elected by popular vote. Face it. The “people” don’t give a damn about the constitution. They want their government to be their master and to give them everything they want for free. They want the government to take from the rich and give to the poor. They always have. They always will.


19 posted on 04/27/2016 6:29:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: xzins
The Supreme Court doesn't matter unless WE change. The Judiciary has become an insurmountable problem in the US. On all levels, they overturn laws that get passed. That isn't going to change until we turn things around and the prevailing expectations of society change.

Look what happened. Republicans had a majority at the Supreme Court, and they didn't prevent any of Obama's agenda. In the South, judges sided with those who seek to surpress history and culture.

GWB gave us Roberts.

With President Trump, the choices will be just fine, and approved. We don't need those creeps in the US Senate to give us a mythical majority there to achieve that. The first sewer that has to be cleaned out is the US Senate.

20 posted on 04/27/2016 6:29:36 AM PDT by grania
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