Posted on 04/26/2016 4:56:02 PM PDT by cotton1706
OKLAHOMA CITY The Oklahoma Legislature has given final approval to a resolution formally asking Congress to call a national convention to consider adding a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
The Senate voted 30-16 on Tuesday to approve the House-backed joint resolution despite concerns of some members that a national convention could be expanded to consider issues beyond the federal budget.
The Florida-based Balanced Budget Amendment Task Force has targeted Oklahoma and six other statehouses this year to push the measure.
(Excerpt) Read more at kfor.com ...
We've had a BBA here in California for over 20 years and we're hundreds of billions of dollars in debt.
EVERY budget is a balanced budget. The problem is it's balanced with taxes and borrowing.
If politicians will ignore the Constitution as it is currently written, what makes anyone think they'll abide by some new Constitution?
great article. now that i have Chrome instead of Edge i cn actually open links.
immediate age 70 for retirement might not go over so well though.
but a lot of good and great ideas.
God forbid the pezzonovante travel coach.
1976 Gov. Jerry Brown called for a BBA. He was a 1 year Governor and running for President against Carter-it was ‘phony’. With him at the helm for a 2nd time you would think Calif.... The last opportunity was under Clinton when a GOP Senator(Hatfield/Oregon) blew it for the party and country
Only pay out SS and medicare to people who have paid in for 20 years or more. No illegals, aliens, or people who have never had a job or been married to a worker.
Patriots, please beware that a balanced federal budget is not necessarily constitutional.
From a related thread
Once again, its time for "Federal Government Annual Budget 101, the constitutionally limited power federal government's budget as the Founding States had intended for the budget to be understood.
Note that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers. This is evidenced by the following excerpt.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
In fact, based on the Courts statement above, here is a rough estimate of how much taxpayers should be paying Congress annually to perform its Section 8-limited power duties.
Given that the plurality of clauses in Section 8 deal with defense, and given that the Department of Defense budget for 2015 was $500+ billion, I will generously round up the $500+ billion figure to $1 trillion (but probably much less) as the annual price tag of the federal government to the taxpayers.
In other words, the corrupt media, including Obama guard dog Fx Noise, should not be reporting multi-trillion dollar annual federal budgets without mentioning the Supreme Courts clarification of Congresss limited power to appropriate taxes in budget discussions.
The bottom line is that the states that want to amend the Constitution to require a balanced federal budget need to include the excerpt above from Gibbons as a provision in such an amendment.
Remember in November!
When patriots elect Trump, or whatever conservative they elect, they need to also elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its Section 8-limited powers to support the new president, including putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes.
Also consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.
It does not observe the Constitution of Original Intent that the late Robert Bork named "the Constitution in exile."
Only by amending the Constitution can the loopholes introduced during the New Deal be sealed, especially the Great Loophole created by Wickard v. Filburn. That 1942 loophole wrapped the Interstate Commerce Clause in Article I, Section 8 around the entire Constitution and gave the federal government power over everything it wished. When Nancy Pelosi said that nothing that Congress does has anything to do with the Constitution, it's the Great Loophole to which she is referring.
Yes, 3/4 of states must vote to ratify any proposed amendments.
I am of the opinion that another US civil war is unavoidable. The only real questions are, sooner or later and who is going to be on which sides.
“If politicians will ignore the Constitution as it is currently written, what makes anyone think they’ll abide by some new Constitution?”
I worry about that true. We have to HOPE on that...because the alternative is just too horrible to imagine.
Post #27.
Slam them, slam the entire budget until it puts FedGov back in its Constitutional box.
But then, even the politicians who were in office at the time began violating The Constitution even before the ink was dry.
Are you familiar with KrisAnne Hall?
She's a fantastic scholar of The Constitution. She knocks it out of the park in this video.
When I lectured on federalism to Tea Party groups in Georgia 5 years ago, I had them eating out of my hand. At the end of the lecture, I was mobbed by the crowd, and fortunately I had handouts to make my points.
I condensed the lecture into an essay here.
A balanced budget is not the solution. A limit on how much can be spent is.
Ping
http://www.cosaction.com/oklahoma_the_7th_state_to_call_convention_of_states/?recruiter_id=31606
Very confusing. Oklahoma is either the 29th state for the balanced budget, or the 7th state for a general convention...or possibly both!
The situation has become a bit confusing. The newspaper article states that Oklahoma is the 29th state to apply for a Convention of the States to address a balanced budget amendment. However, the COS website states that Oklahoma is now the 7th state to apply for a convention to address the comprehensive concept of limiting federal power using Georgia's language. (The first 6 states are AL, AK, FL, GA, IN and TN.)
One of these is true. I tend to trust the COS website because most newspaper journalists are hopeless when it comes to facts and the Constitution.
This article helps to clear things up. Oklahoma DID do both in one.
http://www.tulsatoday.com/2016/04/27/oklahoma-senate-approved-article-v-convention/
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