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Report: 'Significant portion' of NFL thinks Patriots didn't deflate footballs
CSN ^ | April 26, 2016 | Phil Perry

Posted on 04/26/2016 12:14:32 PM PDT by detective

More than a year after the Deflategate saga began, one report says that there are teams across the league who have now changed their tune and believe the Patriots did nothing wrong.

According to Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report, executives, coaches and players that he spoke to believe that the NFL got its investigation wrong and that the Patriots never cheated. That opinion represents a complete 180-degree turn for some of the same folks who, according to Freeman, high-fived inside team facilities when they first heard about the Deflategate punishment.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: deflategate; tombrady
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Anybody who knows anything about football and/or is capable of understanding the Ideal Gas Law knows the charges against Tom Brady are fraudulent.

A quarterback wants the footballs to be consistent. He would not want them quickly and haphazardly deflated in a bathroom for a few seconds each.

The pressure of the footballs had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the game. The Patriots beat the Colts easily and outscored them more in the second half.

The air pressure in a football decreases as the temperature drops.

The Wells Report was fraudulent. Goodell was dishonest in his role as opposing party and as arbitrator. The first judge was able to see that and reversed Goodell's suspension.

One of the appeals judges saw it also. The other appeals judges said it did not matter how dishonest Goodell was and how rigged the process was.

Hopefully Tom Brady will appeal and win.

1 posted on 04/26/2016 12:14:32 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

Amen to that.


2 posted on 04/26/2016 12:16:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: detective

Trying to destroy the game like the country. The thug image was not enough to steer fans away now they attack the game itself (concussions) and the non-thug component.


3 posted on 04/26/2016 12:18:32 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: detective

translation: We were ALL doing it!


4 posted on 04/26/2016 12:18:46 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
“translation: We were ALL doing it!”

No. The point is Goodell was dishonest and exceeded his authority.

Anyone who knows anything about football understands that.

From the article:

“”The Patriots aren't victims,” a general manager told Freeman, “but they are a cautionary tale for the rest of the league. They're a reminder the commissioner can do whatever he wants, and there isn't a damn thing any team can do about it.””

Goodell is dishonest. The system is rigged.

5 posted on 04/26/2016 12:23:34 PM PDT by detective
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To: trisham

Brady will be 39 years old soon, he has 15 seasons in NFL.

Brady is a rich guy, at his age he might just tell the NFL to F themselves and retire, become a sportscaster and ream the league every week for years to come. Then run for the Senate, and end their Tax exempt status, and lobby for teams to repay the cost to build their Civic Stadiums or pay higher rent.

In other words make the NFL pay dearly for this nonsense.

Illegal Aliens don’t get hounded like Brady did, and the league punishment exceeds their case in that they don’t have a prima fascia case that they can prove in court.

If their is a Trial it will be before an NFL friendly Judge
not in front of a Jury, you can bet the NFL would settle if this was going before a jury.

Maybe the fans of Brady can take it out on the NFL and Boycott this season. Teach them that Players have rights too.


6 posted on 04/26/2016 12:25:04 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: detective

The truth is slowly leaking out about this farce....the NFL totally ignored the Ideal Gas Law because the owners wanted New England cut down a peg. Now that’s it’s dragged out forever they are not happy.


7 posted on 04/26/2016 12:25:50 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: trisham

Was just reading a portion of the dissenting opinion of the judge on the Second Circuit and I was struck by his lack of exoneration of Brady. He seemed to concentrate solely on the severity of the penalty and how it was unevenly administered.

Again this is a brief review of the published dissent, if I am wrong point me to the full dissent.


8 posted on 04/26/2016 12:25:51 PM PDT by Cyman
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The court case has nothing to do with whether the balls were deflated purposefully or not. That's not a legal issue. The court case had to do with whether the NFL could suspend a player on the say-so of the commissioner alone, without an impartial appeal process. And Brady won because some judge didn't like the way the collective bargaining agreement was written. It's been overturned because another judge decided that it doesn't matter if it's fair or unfair, it's what the union agreed to. If you don't want an asshat making arbitrary decisions as you sole source of appeal then don't sign a contract that says he is the sole source of appeal.

Regarding the punishment, let's face it the Patriots have gotten away with murder and Goodell covered for them. He burned the spygate tapes and he never punished them for using a second audio channel in Brady's helmet to circumvent the cutoff period rule (and Brady knew about that with 100% certainty so don't give me the stuff about him being a quire boy who never participated in the cheating).

This last episode, though minor, was the straw that broke the camel's back. The pats made Goodell look like their chump one time too many. Ironically, Goodell still looks like a chump but that's because he's an incompetent PC fool, not because of the Patriots.

9 posted on 04/26/2016 12:28:12 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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The league gave up its tax exempt status. And cities volunteer to build those stadiums.


10 posted on 04/26/2016 12:28:28 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: LongWayHome

The colts on the other hand, have magic balls that are not affected by cold air.

They also did not have a guy on staff nicknamed The Deflator.


11 posted on 04/26/2016 12:29:54 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Cyman

From an adjudication stance whether or not Brady did it is completely immaterial. In the end this is a contract dispute, and the CBA gives Goodell broad authority to levy punishment as he sees fit for conduct detrimental. The dissent basically says there should be reasonable limits to “as he sees fit”.


12 posted on 04/26/2016 12:29:59 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: detective; LucyT
With all due respect--

I started my football career as a freshman in high school, as the passer on a team that ran the football. I could throw hard and put the ball where I needed it to be.

But I have small enough hands that every now and again; sometimes when it was wet; the ball would get away from me.

For practice during the week, we took a little pressure off the balls; I never had a problem in practice.

For years, even today, in pickup games, I like to play with a little softer ball.

If I could have played throughout my career with a softer ball, I would have been a quarterback in the NFL. I thought it would be cheating to do that.

13 posted on 04/26/2016 12:31:57 PM PDT by David
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Personally, I’m over deflategate. It ended up hurting the league, becoming too much of a distraction. If I were Goodell, I would call Brady in, tell him to drop any further appeal, and reduce the suspension to one game. The main point has been proven, that Goodell can do whatever the hell he wants under the collective bargaining agreement. No need to cost the league money and fans. End it.


14 posted on 04/26/2016 12:35:17 PM PDT by Defiant (The Shills are alive, with the sound of Cruz-ick....)
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A quarterback wants the footballs to be consistent. He would not want them quickly and haphazardly deflated in a bathroom for a few seconds each.

Not to mention he was MVP in the Super Bowl a couple of weeks later with presumably properly-inflated footballs. This whole thing was BS. If anything, it makes the Colts look like sore losers for bringing it up after their shellacking.

15 posted on 04/26/2016 12:35:38 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: pepsi_junkie

That is a good, succinct summary of the legal issues.


16 posted on 04/26/2016 12:36:48 PM PDT by Defiant (The Shills are alive, with the sound of Cruz-ick....)
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To: pepsi_junkie
“Regarding the punishment, let's face it the Patriots have gotten away with murder and Goodell covered for them. He burned the spygate tapes”

I think part of the reason Goodell went after Brady so dishonestly was because of spygate.

But in this case Brady did not do anything illegal. He would not want someone screwing around with the footballs instead of have them consistent.

The Ideal Gas Law and the two different gauges explains the difference in psi.

17 posted on 04/26/2016 12:37:41 PM PDT by detective
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It’s all hooey. If the NFL were such sticklers for ball inflation, they would have high paid Inflation Officials who pass out officially NFL certified inflated balls before each and every play. This entire fiasco is making the NFL look like the fools they are.


18 posted on 04/26/2016 12:39:01 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Defiant

Wouldn’t it be nice if all the teams in the northeast had fans cancel season tickets and sign a petition that they ain’t coming back. #NOBRADYnoNFL.

The Commish is a Knish.


19 posted on 04/26/2016 12:39:08 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: detective

Goodell is a power-mad idiot. Any competent scientist would scoff at the alleged evidence for deflation.


20 posted on 04/26/2016 12:40:52 PM PDT by RossA
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