Posted on 04/25/2016 1:00:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"
NIV
INDEED!
And they spoke of miraculous times to come.
And don’t ignore Jesus Himself on the subject who said that if the miracles that had been done in Israel had been done in Sodom and Gomorrah — they would have repented.
Now if the two scriptures contradict one another we have proved the bible to be wrong.
But I think Jesus was talking about social effects here, not just the salvation of souls. Your passage is about salvation of souls.
Gee- ya really got me there elsie- the moral equivalence is stunning-
‘dummy’ ‘total loser’ ‘disgusting’ ‘pathetic’ is right up there in the moral high ground as is pointing out obvious facts about blind hypocrites-
Fail
Cowardly?? Trump and the transgenders have the entire establishment on their side. Cruz is the one who ought to be scared.
At any rate, to use your passage as an excuse to fight against miracles and their documented effect, is like being a spiritual dog in the manger.
God offers miracles out of compassion.
By the way, Jesus was talking about the proposal that the beggar be raised from the dead. Moses and the prophets actually covered the gospel and the miracles that would engender. So you have actually not argued against the needfulness of miracles at all. The Holy Spirit is grieved when you fight against it.
I saw a guy working in the women’s dressing rooms at a store in the mall. A big name store. It turned my stomach. He was sashaying around, IN the rooms, helping. I told the clerk I would not shop there. Duh. He is no longer there, and no, HE was not a she.
and the writer (an obvious liberal) got their panties in a wad, thong in a knot, codpiece inverted, or whatever is the appropriate metaphor over transgender issues.
Good for Cruz for pointing out at least one state has the sand to stand up for what is right.
If people have serious "gender identity" problems, they should seek help, not seek the "right" to go to the girl's room with my female relatives from my mom to my great granddaughters.
What Jesus means here is that if He is not afforded the regard given to Him by Moses and the Prophets, there will not be the necessary belief for salvation. Not that a reading of the Old Testament is all there is to God’s plan to witness to humanity.
This does not denigrate miracles, in fact it strengthens the case for their need. The Christ was going to be the One who wouldn’t simply rise from the dead, but use that as the basis of a panoply of ministry capabilities.
That’s what happens when people just see the name and don’t read the post.
And just who is supposed to police this?
This is a fig leaf. It’s an important fig leaf, but still a fig leaf.
We shouldn’t have to lean on social customs to know we are made male and female and what that means in both cases.
Yeah, that little quip must have taken all of what, five seconds at the outside?
BTW, the Christian Right didn't get that way in five seconds, have been the Christian Right for more than five seconds, and will be that same demographic for far longer. This is an issue Cruz and the Christian Right can connect on, and Cruz is right to do so. YMMV
The problem is that the Christian Right tends to stand on itself and its own ideas more than it stands on God, nowadays.
You give me too much credit, sir. I type slower than that!
You give me too much credit, sir. I type slower than that!
[[North Carolina passed a law to keep transgenders in the restrooms they are plumbed for.]]
They also passed the law to keep ALL men out of women’s bathrooms- perverts, pedophiles, rapists etc- as soon as men are allowed to claim they are a woman, and legally allowed to use a woman’s bathroom- all men- perverts, will be allowed access to women and children inside bathrooms-
[[If people have serious “gender identity” problems, they should seek help, not seek the “right” to go to the girl’s room with my female relatives from my mom to my great granddaughters.]]
Exactly- for 1000’s of years they had to use the right bathrooms (or if they didn’t and used the opposite gender’s bathroom- they had to make damn sure they didn’t reveal it)- and they survived fine- but by golly all of a sudden they can’t function in life because they aren’t allowed ot force the opposite sex to accept their mental illness and allow them ot occupy the same bathroom?
The fact that this has even become a ‘talking point’ proves that we are on a moral freefall as a society- the fact that people even think a male has the right to use a female bathroom speaks volumes about how far we’ve sunk morally-
The idea of gender bathrooms is a modern social concept tied to the modern blessing of dedicated indoor plumbing. It never showed up in the bible.
I think these bathrooms happened to be the closest straw available when society went flailing around for something to grasp, some center of cause.
Which is a sad comment. It isn’t asking about how to lean on God. It’s asking about how to lean on the world. Well, the world will bend and break, guaranteed.
The more they are off base, the more I suspect their motives and their sincerity.
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