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Christian Conservative speaks out against Ted Cruz
Red State Watcher ^ | 4/24/2016

Posted on 04/24/2016 7:04:13 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: vladimir998
I don’t recall any of them being raped

But that is the singular case we are arguing about here.

I see no reason why a victim has any responsibility other than not to harm an innocent person.

So whose responsibility is this baby's life, since it is not the victim's?

81 posted on 04/25/2016 5:21:03 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

I guess you’ve never heard of adoption?


82 posted on 04/25/2016 6:14:52 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: AndyJackson

“But that is the singular case we are arguing about here.”

It was. But if I have helped everyone else who has asked - and I have helped even those who didn’t - yet I have known no one who was pregnant after rape (such an occurrence is relatively rare in the first world accounting for less than 2% of all abortions in the U.S.) - then I said what had to be said.

“So whose responsibility is this baby’s life, since it is not the victim’s?”

Your question makes no sense. No one chose - not father nor mother - to create a baby, but once the baby exists no one has the right to murder it.

You support baby killing. I don’t. Ever. It’s just that simple.


83 posted on 04/25/2016 6:37:28 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

People who support baby killing - as AndyJackson does - would probably rather see a baby die than be given away.


84 posted on 04/25/2016 6:39:00 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Agree. People like that need prayers. They are northern conservative nor pro-life. Instead, they believe in eugenics which is a profound evil. It’s a shame they don’t see the error of their ways


85 posted on 04/25/2016 6:48:00 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: surroundedbyblue

*neither


86 posted on 04/25/2016 6:48:17 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: surroundedbyblue
You find it "reprehensible" that Donald Trump does not believe that you should basically sacrifice the happiness of an innocent girl who has been raped, by forcing her to carry the rapist's child? Well, your fanatical approach is what destroyed two otherwise Conservative Senatorial candidates in the previous Federal election cycle. It is also the sort of myopia that turns off millions of people, and makes it more difficult for those of us who want to get the Federal Courts out of the abortion promotion business, to actually succeed.

Now I am not usually arguing for pragmatism over principle. Generally there is no real dichotomy there; nor is there one here, if you simply look at the interests of a completely innocent mother, as well as that of the unborn baby. (And, of course it would be very wrong to postpone the decision, even after a rape--so please do not attribute such to Donald Trump, as that is clearly not something he is proposing.)

87 posted on 04/25/2016 6:58:52 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: AndyJackson
Do not attribute one issue fanaticism to "social Conservatism." True social conservatives have always sought to protect innocent femininity.

Of course, I agree with you points!

88 posted on 04/25/2016 7:07:09 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: sphinx

Trump is God’s man? That’s jumping the shark.
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Cruz is the “face of God?” That’s jumping way over the shark.


89 posted on 04/25/2016 7:46:42 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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To: Kandy Atz; All

Anyone who is truly a Believer, and a small government, Constitutional Conservative, would not be falling for Donald’s shtick. We’ve gone from electing a community agitator, to considering a progressive reality TV star as a viable candidate. God help America.

Redstatewatcher - celebrating 8 months online!
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Anyone who is truly a Believer, and supports U.S. NATURAL BORN CITIZEN candidates for President, does not support currency manipulation, does not support a 500% increase in visas, wants to deport illegals, and wants to build a wall to protect its citizens, would not be falling for Cruz’s shtick! We’ve gone from electing a community agitator, to considering a false conservative who is NOT the “face of God!” God help America.

Redstatewatcher - celebrating 8 months online TRUTH!


90 posted on 04/25/2016 7:55:28 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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To: AndyJackson; ExTexasRedhead

“When did God leave a will naming you as judge of others? “

Exactly! But there are a bunch of people who spend too much time in church and not enough time visiting with reality who see the election of our next president as some sort or religious “war” or “litmus test of their theology.” Thankfully, most people have enough balance in their lives to put their religious views in their proper place in this process. It’s not a resurrection, it’s an election!


91 posted on 04/25/2016 7:59:00 AM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: Java4Jay

Written by a Democrat
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Written by a Conservative


92 posted on 04/25/2016 7:59:57 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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To: surroundedbyblue; ExTexasRedhead

“It’s a shame they don’t see the error of their ways”

Like a previous poster posited, “who died and made you g-d?” What gives you any right at all to talk about “the error of anyone else’s ways?” Just because you have one particular way of thinking doesn’t make it “right.” And for what it’s worth, I’d opt for having a chilld conceived in rape, but I realize that others may not see it that way and I’m not going to presume to force my views on anyone else.
And BTW, sCruse is still a POS irrespective of this nonsense, and so is his new “sidekick,” K-sick! The ONLY way forward now is with Trump. If the GOPe is successful in derailing Trump’s nomination, you can say hello to President Clinton the Second!


93 posted on 04/25/2016 8:20:21 AM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“If you are a NeverTrump type person, you are working against our purposes on FR, so please opus out now and log off and let us carry on with our mission in peace.

Continue insulting us with 24/7 anti-Trump diatribes and insults, your opus will be assumed.”

—— Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3424005/posts

94 posted on 04/25/2016 8:36:34 AM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: mrpotatohead
“If you are a NeverTrump type person, you are working against our purposes on FR, so please opus out now and log off and let us carry on with our mission in peace.

Continue insulting us with 24/7 anti-Trump diatribes and insults, your opus will be assumed.”

—— Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3424005/posts

95 posted on 04/25/2016 8:38:55 AM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: gg188

What are you talking about?


96 posted on 04/25/2016 8:56:44 AM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: vette6387; Liz; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Doogle; sheik yerbouty; Foolsgold; Forty-Niner; flat; ...

IMO, sitting in church doesn’t make one worthy. It’s how they live their lives 24/7 that shows us what they are. Holding a bible up and telling everyone else how to live all the while excusing themselves makes them hypocrites. The ugliness on FR by those who pretend to be religious is quite telling, ya think?


97 posted on 04/25/2016 10:58:38 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Absolutely!!!!!


98 posted on 04/25/2016 11:00:16 AM PDT by ZULU (Trump is the answer. The Establishment is the problem.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You weren’t here in 2012. How do you know who supported who? And does that mean you’re a retread?


99 posted on 04/25/2016 12:24:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Either Cruz or Trump, but Hillary we must dump!)
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To: gg188

You keep sending that to me. Why is that??


100 posted on 04/25/2016 12:38:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Either Cruz or Trump, but Hillary we must dump!)
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