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Ted Cruz Attacks Trump Over Support For Transgender Men "Pretending" To Be Women
Real Clear Polirtics ^ | April 22nd, 2016 | By Tim Hains

Posted on 04/22/2016 11:51:18 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: LydiaLong

Yes, everyone of those was born a man.


61 posted on 04/22/2016 12:29:16 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Travis McGee
Now that Target has announced they will allow trannies to use the bathroom of their choice nationwide, it's apparent we need a Federal law to prevent it.

And, we need the prominent and Principled Conservative Ted Cruz to champion that law.

62 posted on 04/22/2016 12:30:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: driftdiver

Not about me personally. How about answering the questions?

What about little girls in the bathroom with a butch lez??

If a transgender man dressed as a woman used a woman’s bathroom who would know? He have to pee in the sink!

If a transgender woman dressed as a man used a men’s bathroom who would know? They couldn’t use the urinal.

So how would they be identified?


63 posted on 04/22/2016 12:30:30 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Mariner; xzins; manc; Bob434
There is no such thing as a "Transgender Man". If you were born a man, then you are a man. Period. No amount of genital mutilation is going to change that.

Further the whole issue is not about cross dressing freaks, but the Law in Charlotte that caused this firestorm was a law which required businesses to allow anyone in any restroom depending on their feelings and not the way they are dressed. In other words any man claiming to be "gender neutral" or feminine or a lesbian trapped in a man's body would be free to walk into a women's restroom, pull out his schlong and do his business right in front of women and little girls.

North Carolina stood up to the LGBT lobby and said that the only bathroom you can use must conform to the gender on your birth certificate (which was the law that was already in place in North Carolina) and passed a law prohibiting cities and counties (which are the creation of the state) from passing laws and ordinances which were in contradiction to the bathroom laws that had been on the books for decades.

LGBTrump tries to claim that this is a States Rights issue after saying he is perfectly fine with men using women's facilities and then at the same time he ridiculed North Carolina for passing a much needed law to protect women and children from sexual perverts.

If LGBTrump thought that this was an issue for the states, then he should have stood up for North Carolina rather than throwing them under the LGBT bandwagon.

64 posted on 04/22/2016 12:31:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Mariner
Anybody who thinks that changing the captain on the Titanic at this time is going to make a real difference to the outcome...is much more optimistic than I am.


65 posted on 04/22/2016 12:32:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dynoman

66 posted on 04/22/2016 12:35:22 PM PDT by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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To: dynoman
Not about me personally. How about answering the questions?

Your questions (about enforcement of laws against transvestities/etc. using the public bathroom/shower/sauna/etc. of their choice) miss several points:

1) The fact that governmental LAW is PROTECTING this perversion is a devastating blow to the culture, and it's a sure way to help it get entrenched more deeply and quickly. That's bad.

2) Laws against "free choice of rooms for undress" help prosecute "near-miss" cases where the perpetrator didn't actually get to commit a felony; the B.S. of "I wasn't trying to grab anything; I was off-balance, and I tripped!" wouldn't be able to evade the fact that they shouldn't have been there in the FIRST place. Which is better: MORE layers of protection (however imperfect) against perversion, or LESS?

It's arguments like yours which allowed sodomy to be legalized in the USA.

67 posted on 04/22/2016 12:41:20 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: dynoman
Nah, man. This is the one that is dangerous:



If dudes start looking like this, we're in deep kimchi.

(though I suspect this is a biological female who is so far left that she is now trying to pretend to be "gender neutral" to gain SJW street cred)
68 posted on 04/22/2016 12:43:40 PM PDT by Rastus (The next president will be Trump or Hillary. Vote accordingly.)
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To: paladinan

So when sodomy was illegal was it happening? When abortion was illegal was is happening?

Like Apostle Paul said the law doesn’t contain the power to live it - and never will.


69 posted on 04/22/2016 12:44:58 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks for the information


70 posted on 04/22/2016 12:45:52 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Rastus

I wonder how difficult a “xy/xx” gender sensor would be to develop.


71 posted on 04/22/2016 12:47:15 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: niki

Understandable!

That’s alright, we will “let” her into them men’s room.

(Actually we have no choice, look at her, she looks like she can pee wherever the heck she wants, only question I have is is she merciful enough to let me pee as well!?)

Ahh, I am just kidding, sort of.


72 posted on 04/22/2016 12:47:40 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: dynoman

So how would they be identified?

This whole issue is just a distraction. It was a “gotcha” question. It would have been the wrong answer no matter what Trump said.

I don’t care who is in the stall next to me. I want to do my business and get out. Not make new friends.

This isn’t even on my list of campaign issues. We have bigger fish to fry!


73 posted on 04/22/2016 12:48:22 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: mouse1

No Kidding!! Some people need a CSR - common sense reset.


74 posted on 04/22/2016 12:50:15 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

lol newsflash, Trumpbot defends allowing perverts into childrens bathrooms.


75 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chris37

https://www.facebook.com/djtailz.facez/posts/1070936412968879

Shawn is peeing with you. She* made a very reasonable post on Facebook.


76 posted on 04/22/2016 12:52:18 PM PDT by niki
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To: dynoman
Yup. The Potty Patrol is back in action, for a second entirely productive day of hysterical shrieking and blubbering.

Well, then: they can go right ahead and focus on the burning, all-important end times issue of ever-vigilant potty patrolling... and, in the meantime, I'll just hang out over here with the larger group more concerned with matters of national sovereignty and survival. Whatever allows them to feel the most useful, ultimately.

Their heads... their voices. Not my problem. ;)

77 posted on 04/22/2016 12:52:50 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("#NeverTrump" = "#AlwaysHillary.")
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To: Mariner

I think Trump was not informed about why the North Carolina legislature made the law in the first place. North Carolina has state law that forbids men from declaring they are transgendered and entering women’s restrooms, dressing rooms and showers. The city of Charlotte passed an ordinance that allowed transgendered men to do so, violating state law. What the legislature did was forbid their cities from passing laws that violate established state law. I think Trump did not know this detail.

Trump was half right when he declared that North Carolina should “Leave it the way it is.” Exactly. They were leaving it the way it was in state law and not letting cities like Charlotte change it.

I will let the Trump nit pickers dig up the North Carolina state law on the subject and print it out here on the forum. Then tell me why Trump was wrong to say, “Leave it the way it is.”

Finally, I will continue to debate the Trump nit pickers on this subject until they stop their foolishness. These transgender people are human beings in need of psychological counseling. Natural law has deemed them male and, due to their illness, they are pursuing a destructive lifestyle that will cause endless heartache, costly and painful physical modifications and social accommodations that will be endless and costly. It is the same mental illness that causes drug addiction; the same sickness (IMHO) that just killed Prince Rogers Nelson.

In the meantime, we do have laws on the books for voyeurism, pedophilia and exhibitionism. Those who violate such laws, whether in bathrooms, showers, dressing room, or wherever, get categorized as sexual offenders. With that on their record, their future life is not favorable. It is important that they get help before they get in trouble with the law. It is important they get help before they suffer medical complications if they resort to surgical modifications that will never accommodate the illness that causes their misery.


78 posted on 04/22/2016 12:54:24 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: dynoman
It does you and Trump no good to call the Cruz supporters haters and other nasty names. It makes them even less likely to vote for Trump. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot.
79 posted on 04/22/2016 12:56:22 PM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: mouse1
"The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16

What he said. ;)

80 posted on 04/22/2016 12:59:29 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("#NeverTrump" = "#AlwaysHillary.")
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