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Donald Trump rails against Carrier during rally at Indiana State Fairgrounds (Pence, Christie)
Fox 59 News ^ | 4/20/2106 | Kylee Wierks

Posted on 04/21/2016 7:40:14 AM PDT by GilGil

“Governor Pence was pleased to welcome Mr. Trump back to Indiana and hear firsthand his plans for the country. The Governor was also grateful for the opportunity to describe Indiana's economic success and expressed his desire to have a partner in the White House who will help advance pro-growth economic policies, reduce burdensome regulation and curb the size and scope of government. With more than 130,000 new private sector jobs created since he took office, Governor Pence believes addressing these issues is critical in order for Indiana to continue to be a great place to live, work and raise a family.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: carrier; christie; delegates; in2016; layoffs; manufacturing; pence; trump
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To: Jewbacca
How come whenever I read about one of these factory closings and offshoring to Asia and elsewhere, the company in question is actually very profitable? When I do a little research it always turns out that they are making huge profits and no where near losing money. The fact is these companies are making huge profits while complying with Federal regulations and taxes. This is a fact, regardless of where you stand on the legitimacy of regulations and taxers.

FYI UA, the parent company of Carrier, made huge profits last year.

61 posted on 04/21/2016 10:22:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It certainly is of vital importance, as an issue. It is also an opportunity for Trump to reduce negative impressions by explaining the underlying economic & social aspects.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3422096/posts


62 posted on 04/21/2016 10:25:11 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Buckeye McFrog
With Trump at the Bully Pulpit, companies will be terrified to move a plant offshore

And that's what Made America Great!!!

Businesses that are terrified of the government!!

63 posted on 04/21/2016 10:40:26 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon ("I play to people's fantasies." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

And that’s why I don’t trust Trump ... he seems far too willing to make people too scared to cross him. I’ve had enough of living in a country where people are running scared from the government, and won’t really feel any better about it if the authoritarian-in-chief has an ‘R’ after his name instead of a ‘D’. It’s just a perpetuation of the problem.


64 posted on 04/21/2016 10:59:05 AM PDT by Sasha_S (Where progressives rule, ignorance reigns.)
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To: alternatives?
We may get to the point where most people are only making $3 per hour. At that stage where is their market?

Well, as a novice economist, I can not answer what happens to the market based on "may" without conjecture. In other words, please tell me how we get to a point that most wage earners only make $3 per hour.

65 posted on 04/21/2016 10:59:40 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: central_va

Narco-Mexico versus Narco US. Take your pick the sellers or the consumers? Mexico should completely decriminalize the production of drugs. Why should they bear the brunt of our addiction?


66 posted on 04/21/2016 11:02:00 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: central_va

“How come whenever I read about one of these factory closings and offshoring to Asia and elsewhere, the company in question is actually very profitable? “

Because the media, which has a liberal, pro-union, agenda prints those stories.

“When I do a little research it always turns out that they are making huge profits and no where near losing money.”

So what. Companies (especially manufacturing companies with a lot of tooling) plan years in advance in supply chain and have to stay ahead of competition. If managed correctly, big moves are made when still profitable.

“UA, the parent company of Carrier, made huge profits last year.”

Sounds like they are a well-managed company whose board makes proactive decisions, but not relevant to the relevant questions:

How was the particular profitability of this line of A/C units doing?

Were lower-cost competitors poised to capture market share?


67 posted on 04/21/2016 11:46:45 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca
How was the particular profitability of this line of A/C units doing?

So now they should lower the price! Not gonna happen....

68 posted on 04/21/2016 11:50:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jewbacca

Luckily we are gong to get a Persistent that will put America first. Go Trump!


69 posted on 04/21/2016 11:51:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“So now they should lower the price! Not gonna happen....”

So, in your mind, businesses should be regulated on how much profit they make?

What kind of return on investment should be allowed stockholders who take risk? 5%? 10%? 20%?

You are promoting the ideas of Bernie Sanders, you know.


70 posted on 04/21/2016 11:52:28 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: GilGil
He said he would make it so that companies like Carrier would have to pay a significant tax (upwards of 30 percent) in order to import their goods to the U.S.

So...the price I would have to pay for a Carrier air conditioner is going to go up by as much as 30%?

71 posted on 04/21/2016 11:52:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

You’ll be treated how Trump wants unwanted unborn babies to be treated, but dream on.


72 posted on 04/21/2016 11:53:30 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: DoodleDawg

Just buy another brand! Simple.


73 posted on 04/21/2016 11:53:52 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: DoodleDawg

“So...the price I would have to pay for a Carrier air conditioner is going to go up by as much as 30%?”

Yep.

Tariffs make certain people rich in the country and the rest of us broke.

You would think Trumpers would look at Venezuela and see how great protectionism works, but I doubt they can make the intellectual leap.


74 posted on 04/21/2016 11:55:57 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
With Trump at the Bully Pulpit, companies will be terrified to move a plant offshore, unless the economic argument is extremely overwhelming.

LOL! As long as they can get their employees for a fraction of what Americans cost they'll continue to move offshore.

75 posted on 04/21/2016 11:56:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 11th Commandment

$3 or $5 is not important. Relative wages are declining particularly at the middle level and below. Corporations are trying to reduce labor costs. Where I work they are farming out a greater portion of the spreadsheet work (which requires a much higher skill set than the average worker) to offshore because labor costs are 1/3 of what they are here. Many of the trade workers pay is down as well. I deal with groups of physicians and they complain their compensation is down. With the reduced income workers (or former workers) won’t have the income to purchase the products for companies like Carrier. It is a vicious cycle where each company in turn cuts wages which reduces the available market for not only their own products but other products.

Not sure where the end is but having an increasing portion of the workforce not working creates social stresses.

Henry Ford increased pay for his workers partially because he recognized that he needed a market for his cars.


76 posted on 04/21/2016 11:58:05 AM PDT by alternatives? (Cruz or Trump)
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To: Jewbacca

As if Cruz’s socialistic VAT tax will create nirvana. Carrier is not the only company that makes air conditioners.


77 posted on 04/21/2016 11:59:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Aria
If we had lower taxes and the union contract was renegotiated at $20/hr and the cost to the employee was made up partly by the lower taxes...then Carrier might decide that the difference of $20/hr to $3/hr isn’t worth the move to Mexico....especially if there’s added tax to bring the products to the USA.

Why not force the union to renegotiate to $3 an hour?

78 posted on 04/21/2016 11:59:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
Does a foreign country have the right to support industry, dump the goods here at an unsustainable price, drive our companies out of business, and then drain our nations resources for years?

Carrier is using Mexico to increase their profits not go out of business.

79 posted on 04/21/2016 12:00:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: fruser1
How about railing over the regulations forcing them out?

What regulations are forcing them out?

80 posted on 04/21/2016 12:01:39 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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