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Stone: Even If Trump Wins 1,237 Delegates, Cruz Could Use "Procedural" Means To take...
RealClear Politics ^ | April 20, 2016 | Tim Haines

Posted on 04/21/2016 4:28:44 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Trump strategist Roger Stone tells NJ 101.5 radio that even if Donald Trump wins a majority of pledged delegates to the Republican convention, Cruz will utilize "Trojan horse" delegates (who are bound to vote for Trump only on the first RNC nomination ballot) to vote on "procedural" matters in the Rules Committee or Credentials committee to block or disallow certain votes.

ROGER STONE: Unfortunately just because Donald Trump gets the 1,237 [delegates needed to win], doesn't mean we aren't going to have a brokered convention. My sources, who are pretty good in the Republican Party, indicate to me that Ted Cruz intends to work a "rules strategy" to try to euchre this nomination away from Donald Trump.

In kind of a shady, using political trickery and so on, utilizing these Trojan Delegates we have been talking about -- Where Trump delegates, from the results of the primary -- those seats are filled with non-Trump voters, non-Trump supporters who will vote against Trump on procedural issues in either rules or credentials that could be used to take away his majority.

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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
I think the Republican party is slowly waking up to how disastrous it would be to have the will of the majority of its base subverted. If Cruz loses the other NE states badly next week, its over.

The other part of the equation is that Trump has to learn to moderate himself better. Looks like he is starting to do that. Let's hope.

21 posted on 04/21/2016 4:48:25 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: rbg81

I do not want Trump to ‘moderate” himself. Isn’t that what pisses us off about politicians?

Keep telling it like it is, Donald.


22 posted on 04/21/2016 4:50:19 AM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I think Stone is just putting this stuff out to let the Cruz campaign know that he knows all the possible tricks that could be played so they can’t pull a fast one.

I heard a pundit make the point that if Cruz had been a better strategist he would never have publicly stated his picking off the delegates strategy. He should have shut his mouth until he got to the convention and surprise Trump then.

Never let the opposition know what you are doing, unless you want them to know what your are doing.


23 posted on 04/21/2016 4:51:03 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: castlegreyskull; ScottinVA; plewis1250; Cobra64; jimbo807; grania; 4rcane; Uncle Miltie; ...

Cruz and Jeff Roe are meeting with the RNC rules committee that makes proposals to present to the actual rules committee right now, as we speak/type.

It’s on the agenda.


24 posted on 04/21/2016 4:53:25 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The phrase of the day is “Pyrrhic Victory.”

Don’t do it, Ted. You will elect Hillary for sure.


25 posted on 04/21/2016 4:53:44 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When judges act like whores, they can hardly expect to be treated like nuns.")
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To: plewis1250

If Trump does not win on the First or 2nd ballot NOBODY will win. The only reason he would not is #neverTrump which is really pissing off one hell of a lot of Americans as its a clear example of what we have been fighting in DC. So For Trump to lose WILL fracture the base and NOBODY has a path to the white house then, Not No swing-state Cruz not, Jeb, Not Rubio, not Kaish, etc.

Its either Trump or Lose the election, the court and down ticket. Time to support the Popular guy who brings in new blood. Anything else is just stupid.


26 posted on 04/21/2016 4:54:54 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: jimbo807

I’m all for Trump telling it like it is. But he can certainly do that without making stupid-a$$ comments. At a minimum, someone needs to screen his Twitter posts.


27 posted on 04/21/2016 4:56:09 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“In kind of a shady, using political trickery and so on, utilizing these Trojan Delegates we have been talking about — Where Trump delegates, from the results of the primary — those seats are filled with non-Trump voters, non-Trump supporters who will vote against Trump on procedural issues in either rules or credentials that could be used to take away his majority”

And this exactly why Cruz will become even more disliked. Not a good trick to try but we’ll see what he does.


28 posted on 04/21/2016 4:56:56 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: norwaypinesavage

“If Trump’s team put as much effort into WINNING delegates, instead of WHINING about Cruz, he might actually have a first ballot chance.”

They have. That’s why Trump is winning.


29 posted on 04/21/2016 4:58:42 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: 4rcane

Except, the only reason there would be a second ballot was if Donald hasn’t won the first. So you claiming that a second ballot victory is kind of misinformation.


30 posted on 04/21/2016 4:59:04 AM PDT by PA-LU Student (Ted Cruz. The one man the Republican Field is afraid to debate one on one!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

cruz’ relationship with truth is as tenuous as clinton’s.
he has destroyed himself politically, and shown himself to be a rather despicable human.
he is clearly melting down, and his sanctimonious bs is becoming obvious to all.
at the same time, trump is actually cleaning his act up. he referred to cruz as “senator” in an interview yesterday, and apoears to be acting more like a presumptive nominee.
i started as a cruz supporter, now i am enjoying watching him self destruct.


31 posted on 04/21/2016 4:59:12 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: rbg81

Trump’s “stupid ass comments” are why hes in the media so much more than any of the others. Seeing as none of them have hurt him consider it could very well be part of his strategy.


32 posted on 04/21/2016 4:59:46 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: rbg81

Disagree. I was watching CNN last night and it was funny. They kept pissing and moaning that Donald was still using “lying Ted” and “crooked Hillary”. They all felt he should “act presidential”, whatever that is. In the process of of complaining about this, the terms mentioned above were repeated about a dozen times.

It’s a strategy and it works.


33 posted on 04/21/2016 5:00:49 AM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Cobra64

Let’s not knock Al Gore. He is the the smart/lucky one.

Gore has had no hassle of the POTUS office.

Al’s a gazillionaire with a loyal herd of global air worshippers. He has a very light speaking engagement schedule. I’m sure he’s tickled pink.


34 posted on 04/21/2016 5:00:57 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Trump has spies at the meeting and the details of any presentation will be in the news ASAP.


35 posted on 04/21/2016 5:01:01 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: NonValueAdded

The phrase of the day is “Pyrrhic Victory.”

Don’t do it, Ted. You will elect Hillary for sure.
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Sadly, it seems not only will Cruz do this but then his camp will blame Trump for the loss to Hillary. They are already trying that because not one of his hardcore supporters can admit Cruz is not well-liked and the public isn’t buying what he’s selling. Seems some would rather lose to Hillary first.


36 posted on 04/21/2016 5:01:16 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: plewis1250

Okay, how do they stop him? He knows all of the tricks-


37 posted on 04/21/2016 5:01:20 AM PDT by orchestra ((And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.))
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To: grania

If this is the plan to stop Trump, I only have one thing to say:

“Go ahead, make my day.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flt9K8vlJGE


38 posted on 04/21/2016 5:01:53 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Mechanicos

That’s your interpretation. Personally, I think if he handled himself better, he’d have had the nomination locked up last month.


39 posted on 04/21/2016 5:02:06 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Being from MA, I’ve already heard this, they’re going to use rule 16 to disqualify Trump’s MA delegates.

Since even the Trump delegates are stacked with Cruz/GOP supporters, the rules will be written so Trump can’t win.

It’s rigged.


40 posted on 04/21/2016 5:02:43 AM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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