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Russia and America should unite against Saudi-China alliance
baltimoresun.com ^ | 4/18/2016 | Rachel Marsden

Posted on 04/18/2016 9:22:23 PM PDT by Trumpinator

Edited on 04/19/2016 12:18:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

If there's a single issue on which the U.S. and Russia should urgently cooperate, it's Saudi Arabia.

If the Central Intelligence Agency's role is to discreetly promote the economic and political interests of the United States, then there's one country that ought to be awfully disappointing to the agency right now: Saudi Arabia. In fact, if there's an issue on which America and Russia could potentially agree, it would be the damage Saudi Arabia has recently wrought upon the national and economic security of both nations.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; iran; putinsbuttboys; putinstrollarmy; redchina; rop; russianpropaganda; saudis; worldwar3
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To: butterdezillion
You need to read up on the quotes of the people you talk about. China is using capitalism to defeat capitalism. What is Cuba? What is Venezuela? Who are they allied with?

Your fantasy that China is using capitalism so that after it defeats capitalism they can be poor and starving commies again is laughable. Communism failed in China but the commie party did not want to give up power - so they gave up their ideology. Cuba is a remnant state that does not have long to go as a communist nation. Venezuela - despite all the rhetoric- is not a communist state.

It was my pleasure to update your reality.

41 posted on 04/19/2016 8:45:53 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

“We” as in Freepers who read your incessant justifications for Putin’s Pogrom. Youre not fooling anyone.


42 posted on 04/19/2016 9:39:28 AM PDT by cassiusking
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To: Trumpinator

“In any case the coup was funded and planned from the west”

BWAHAHAHAHA - yes those were top secret used tires and rocks that the CIA gave the Ukrainians to push back the Russian thugs who killed hundreds in the city square.


43 posted on 04/19/2016 9:41:57 AM PDT by cassiusking
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To: cassiusking
The shooters were the Ukrainian neonazi thugs who shot at the protestors to create an incident.

Here is the BBC confirming it:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31359021

The protest leaders, some of whom now hold positions of power in the new Ukraine, insist full responsibility for the shootings lies with the security forces, acting on behalf of the previous government.

But one year on, some witnesses are beginning to paint a different picture.

And the Western backed coup from the inside: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call

44 posted on 04/19/2016 10:09:54 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: cassiusking

I don’t see you speaking for anyone but yourself or you really think you are a king and speak in the royal “we”.


45 posted on 04/19/2016 10:14:57 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

The article names them. One is in charge of a Romney super-pac.


46 posted on 04/19/2016 10:15:47 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

If you haven’t read the book then you don’t even know the documentation/substantiation you’re missing.


47 posted on 04/19/2016 2:47:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I looked it up online - good for Alex Jones listeners it seems. Not impressed with what I saw about the book.


48 posted on 04/19/2016 2:56:52 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

Oil is currently cheap because Saudi Arabia wants to bankrupt the US oil companies while they still have the “cap and trade POTUS” on board to kneecap US companies while the Islamist-controlled oil doesn’t have to worry about EPA regulations.

It’s always been said that our dependence on foreign oil is a national security issue, and the fact is that the rise in oil prices in 2007-2008 gave the Islamist enemies of the US a LOT of money to control in the stock market. Enough to collapse the world economy.

Christians should look at Revelation and realize what is said about BAbylon falling and the whole world being aghast at the loss of the luxuries she gave them - and realize that the mark of the beast is about banking, the ability to buy and sell being dependent on acceptance of the mark of the beast. Sharia-compliant finance is Islam’s method to conquer the world; their plan is right in line with what was foretold in Scripture.

Dr. Mark Christian gave a series of lectures here that was very enlightening, regarding the role of colonialism in defeating the latest caliphate. Britain and other European nations divided the loyalties of Muslim nations by making them their own country/colony, which broke up the Islamic caliphate. Islam is not about individual countries; it’s about Islam ruling the whole world. The Muslim Brotherhood was started after the latest caliphate fell to colonialism before WWI; the founders of the MB said that Muslims needed to get back on track with the Quran’s command to take the entire globe under sharia. And that command is universal to Islam - regardless of sunni and shia. The individual nations that are considered Sunni (Saudi Arabia) and Shia (Iran) are themselves considered by Islam and the Quran to be an OBSTACLE to the whole world uniting in a worldwide caliphate. Our analysts think that Sunnis and Shiites won’t work together, but everything changes when they have someone who has called for the rise of the caliphate.

Obama’s use of the word “Levant” (ISIL - Islamic State of Iraq and the LEVANT rather than ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) is a huge tell. Syria is a nation, not a caliphate. REferring to the Levant is erasing the national borders, which is what the MB is all about, and which both Sunni and Shia have united behind. (Obama’s hatred of Winston Churchill because of his support for British colonization in Kenya is another huge “tell”. The Muslim world was conquered by dividing the Islamist loyalties through geopolitical boundaries. The whole “no borders” thing is an Islamist ideal also. Everything about Obama and his allies points to the allegiances that Dr. Christian talked about).

Our analysts are drawing distinctions that no longer matter, when the caliphate is being formed. And that is a very, very dangerous thing. Our enemies are dead serious. They do not get sidetracked like we do, with internal bickering, when everything they live for is on the line. We are going to lose this battle because they are more earnest than we are.


49 posted on 04/19/2016 3:17:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Oil is currently cheap because Saudi Arabia wants to bankrupt the US oil companies while they still have the “cap and trade POTUS” on board to kneecap US companies while the Islamist-controlled oil doesn’t have to worry about EPA regulations.

So when oil was expensive - aka your act of terrorism - the western states in the USA were booming....So I guess Texas is part of the terror anti-American network? The Dakotas as well? I just demolished your thesis.........

50 posted on 04/19/2016 4:44:04 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

Texas doesn’t run OPEC, which ran up the oil prices. You don’t seem interested in genuine thinking, only with arguing based on nonsensical premises. This is a waste of time.


51 posted on 04/19/2016 9:14:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Trumpinator
Dick Vomer your view of things is bizarre. Russia is not communist and China is communist in name only these days but that is besides the point.

My view of the governments in Russian and China is realistic and I believe far from "bizarre". Central control of the proletariat/workers and central planning with the well connected elites being the main beneficiaries due to their "greater needs" combined with their "greater ability" is present in both empires.

The Chinese tell them what to do, where to live, how many children to have and have the most basic of all control....who lives and who dies. As for the Russians.

Please read a biography of Putin. It's a great read. He is and was a true believer in the dream of a Russian/Communist world wide empire. When he is cornered or humiliated PERSONALLY, he lashes out.

If you think that either entity is remotely controlled by the "voice" or "concern" of the "people", I am afraid that you may be misinformed.

America and it's citizens need to realize that we are in an ideological total war with communism. It adapted when Ronald Reagan broke the bank, but if you think about it, no leader was imprisoned, no penalty was paid and nobody died as a result of the "change" in governments in the "Soviet Union". They just blended into the reboot of the new wave and carried on. Look at the green movement and you'll see who? Some guy with a blotch mark on his forehead. Go around and look at the old party apparatchiks to see who ended up hung on a lamp-post or shot behind their dacha. None... then all they did was blend in and resume the old game. When the Soviet Union dissolved the "war" wasn't over. It merely morphed into another form.

As for China, they think in terms of generational conflicts. Three or four generations down the road. Like I said before, when the historians look back at this period of time in 1000 or 1500 years and time is compressed, the 20th century is going to be a long continuation of the First World War. Without that war we would have no mid-east "crisis" or Israel. We would not have communism take hold in Russia. The maps of Europe, Near East would look so much different.

That's what I meant by "the long game" and by Russia and China being "communists". They are and we are being led by communists as well in the executive branches of our present administration. Communism isn't bound by borders, my friend. You can't just over run it and occupy it. It is a virus that changes but is basically driven to control everyone except those at the apex of the food chain.

I think being well informed and stepping back from the media propaganda machines help give some perspective.

52 posted on 04/20/2016 8:15:02 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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