Posted on 04/17/2016 7:02:53 PM PDT by markomalley
LOL... yea hopefully the establishment can tell us peons who to vote for </s>
The Trump fans here cannot accept that reality.
They really think Trump will ‘take it to Hillary.’
That is a joke. Trump just thinks he knows dirty tricks from his business dealings
He ain’t seen nothin’ like Clinton dirty tricks and Trump has so much baggage besides most people disliking him.
I really hope we can ‘steal’ the nomination from him and have a chance to win.
That is not strictly true for all states.
Some of the states have unbound delegates.
I went to see Trump at the Oklahoma State Fair last September. Posted numerous pics here on FR. Even bought one of those stupid hats. I agree... I wouldn't vote for him for any office..... nada.
Some of us can learn.
Some can’t or won’t.
A "pledged" delegate is one who promises to vote a certain way and is likely to do so but can change their mind. But a "bound" delegate is simply automatically considered to have voted a certain way.
In the Republican convention process about 95% are bound in the first round.
I found This Washington Post piece to be pretty in depth at answering a lot of these kinds of details (although I am no fan of the Washington Post).
Think you are smart citing obviously push polls that a grade school kid can see are garbage. All the propaganda you Cruz campaign workers spew to attack Trump is ASSETS in the general.
figure me this. Why are the liberals trying to Stop Trump but helping Cruz. That’s backwards for the polls you push.
“...the constitution was approved by delegates and ratified by elected representatives in state legislatures.”
That was in a time before the invention of the telegraph, or even railroads. It took days, somtimes even weeks, for news of current events to reach all the people.
Time and distance were real and actual impediments to the necessary swift communication of critical issues and decision making to the folks back home. The absolute need to have incorruptible, honest, and well educated delegates and representatives at the seat of power, couldn’t have been greater in those days.
Today we have light speed communications, rapid transportation systems, and sources of information so vast and extensive, the Framers would be awed.
The ancient system of party delgates no longer serves it’s original purpose, but has morphed into something more akin to the Communist politburo. The party elites control this body of hand selected insiders and loyalists to achieve the ends of other, more senior masters.
The People be damned.
Invalid analogy.
But isn’t Cruz the “annointed one”? His father told him so, so he MUST be the nominee. (Still won’t get my Vote.)
>Why are the liberals trying to Stop Trump but helping Cruz. That’s backwards for the polls you push.
You nailed it. The Media and Dems are working with the GOP and Cruz to stop Trump.
BOOM!
What is wrong with blowing up Jebby? Seriously. I consider that a favor. You want mister guacamole bowls?
Yes, but I am pretty sure I am correct saying 1237 bound delegates will win it for him.
I was not trying to say all the delegates are bound, but only about 95 percent of them.
The states where Trump has won tend to be ones with bound delegates, because of the recent rule changes this cycle and the fact he tends to win where people vote rather than when the state party picks delegates in another way. From this detailed Washington Post explanation of the process way back in February (don't like Wash Post, but this was a good article):
The Republican National Committee recently enacted a new rule to increase the significance of bound delegates. According to the rule, states that have a "presidential preference poll" must bind their delegates to the outcome of the poll, meaning that most caucuses and primaries should result in bound delegate allocations. Some states, however, have chosen to circumvent the rule by altering their primary voting processes. For instance, in Colorado, Republican voters won't caucus directly for delegates to the national convention. Rather, they'll caucus for delegates to the state convention. Then, the state convention will choose delegates to send to the national convention.
How do they handle states that have no voting—no votes??? Poll respondents are not thinking. People and low information voters can change their position every day. Polls these days are not all that accurate anyway.
Yes,I wish Trump had run third party . Amazing how one man can turn the country upside down He is not really a republican anyway.
Interesting theory. I don't find it remotely plausible, but perhaps Glen Beck would.
What a load of crap. Nobody's changing the rules!
The GOP rules don't say that someone with less than 1237 can't get the nomination, now do they?
The nominee should be logically chosen.
And the logical choice will be Donald Trump.
If Trump doesn't get over 1237, he's going to be VERY close.
And the Cruz fanboys seem to be denying the reality of the fact that Donald Trump has done amazingly well against the backdrop of a relentless character assassination campaign carried out not only by the Left/Media, but also by the hopelessly corrupt GOPe attacking its own frontunner. And Cruz showed his naked opportunism by joining them and piling on.
That campaign was able to slightly blunt Trump's momentum. But it was too little, too late.
GOP voters have been paying very close attention, and the GOPe, by failing in their NeverTrump mission, have now created a dynamic where it will be suicide for them to deny Trump the nomination even if he is a few delegates short of a majority (which he won't be).
How appropriate and ironic.
The GOPe has essentially defeated themselves with their Machiavellian foolishness, and Ted Cruz has done the same by casting his lot with them.
Cruz will be extremely fortunate to even get the VP slot. We'll see how much of a statesman he'll be once he sees multiple third place finishes in the Northeast states.
The GOPe should have let the chips fall where they may, but instead they overplayed their hand to such a degree that the GOP electorate will simply not tolerate any nominee other than Trump.
And once Donald Trump is the leader of the party, then the snobby elites who tried so hard to thwart the will of the GOP voters can be shown the door: Mitt Romney, Lindsay Graham, and their ilk.
Failing to nominate Donald Trump means the death of the GOP via irreparable splintering.
So be it. My mother is a lifelong Republican who voted for Rubio down here in Florida, and has little affinity for Donald Trump. But when she saw what Mitt Romney tried to do, she was appalled.
Mom is ready to leave the Republican party if the convention betrays the voters whose enthusiasm has left the Democrats in the dust.
And if my mother leaves the Republican party, there will be millions just like her who will do so as well.
So, I'm double dog daring the GOPe bit-hes to steal the nomination from Trump, because I, for one, will enjoy transferring my allegiance to a new party which hopefully won't be as openly corrupt as the GOPe.
Bring it on. Donald Trump is the presumptive GOP nominee, and anything else will be suicide for the party.
After Tuesday and next Tuesday, it's time for the losing candidates to grow up and do what's best for the party and the country: unite behind the presumptive nominee.
My opinion at the moment regarding VP is that Cruz has a very small window of opportunity to get his head straight if he wants to be make amends.
I don't think Ted Cruz will wake up in time, so he's going to be left out in the cold as far as being on the ticket.
That's which why I'm predicting that Marco Rubio or John Kasich will be offered the VP slot.
Unite or die!
Vote Trump
Not the same at all. In the general if you win the state you get all the electorals. Fair! In the primary, if you win the state, you don’t get all the delegates. Not fair. And worse, if the states does allow voters at all to vote. Totally unfair. The primary should run exactly like the general. You win the state, you get all the delegates. And every state must have a primary.
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